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What the best performance upgrade for my 2021 4runner?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by RockinB, Dec 25, 2020.

  1. Dec 31, 2020 at 6:52 AM
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    It’s 4 rings and it’s the RSQ8 you want
     
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    Wait a minute, you actually got rid of a 2019 4Runner and bought a 2021 4Runner... because there was a fuel pump recall?
     
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    Yep, I sure did they could not get my 19 fixed until May and was sitting on the back lot since they could not release it back to me.
     
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    This forum has plenty of former 3rd gen Tacoma owners who ditched them to buy a 4R. Don't count on one of those to be a performance upgrade from a 4R if you don't like it.
     
  5. Jan 1, 2021 at 7:30 AM
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    Lmao!

    You think the 4runner us underpowered, but you would trade it for a Tacoma? You might want to do some reading on Tacomaworld before making that switch. It seems like they have plenty of power in the high RPM's, but not much down low.
     
  6. Jan 1, 2021 at 7:31 AM
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    Did you have the fuel pump actually go out?
     
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    Yep, It tanked at 70 MPH running rough and shaking going down the interstate....

    It failed @ 50K now I have a new 21 with 30 miles on it and some updated Tech stuff. Now to see if Toyota has issues with this fuel pump.
     
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  8. Jan 1, 2021 at 7:35 AM
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    That sucks. If they wouldn't fix it for months, I can see why you traded.
     
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    I would be curious how the current 4runner would be with a 6 speed automatic. I looked at RAV4's a few years back, and I remember there was a major improvement in acceleration when they switched to a 6-speed transmission. I was actually quite impressed with the acceleration considering it was just a 4 cylinder.

    I'll bet there would be a less complaints.
     
  10. Jan 1, 2021 at 7:39 AM
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    But he went from a TRD version to an SR5 all because Toyota couldn't provide a fuel pump IF I'm not mistaken? NO I am NOT bashing the SR5 Model, it's just he had the model with what he wanted & has to settle for a model that does NOT have the features of his previous model is all my point is. I know it's his final choice BUT if Toyota could NOT provide a like model that sucks IMHO.
     
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    Yeah it was not the best situation but it worked out $0 money out of my pocket and a 6yr 125K ext warranty
     
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    Yes, But I could have fought Toyota on this but it would have been months if any resolution as I fought hard but in the end Toyota made me whole financially and under law thats all they have to do. I could have gotten a TRD OR premium but would have cost me $3K addl since that was the difference between my 19 and 21 I did get $35K for my 19 with 50K and cut 12 months off my loan on the 21 T4R from 5 yrs to 4 yrs.
     
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    I did chat with an Attorney and he said he could not do much better than I did on this deal and I would have had to pay him $2K if not more to reach a deal and it may have not been any better if any resolution as many Vehicle Manufactures drag shit out when attorneys get involved.
     
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    Hey as long as you're happy with getting what you found to be the best results under the circumstances is ALL that matters !!:cheers::hattip:
     
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    Not the best option but overall getting basically $40K for my 19 with the addl yr taken off the loan from 5 yrs to 4 yrs and the 6 yr 125K ext warranty and running boards since the 21 didn't have them I will just chalk it up to life's trials and tribulations and move on and hope like hell this fuel does not get recalled..... :cheers:
     
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  16. Jan 1, 2021 at 8:40 AM
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    If you are like some OR owners, you may have realized also that you might not really use all the OR features as much as you thought anyway...that's just my take - I doubt I'll ever get out of mine what it's capable of.
     
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    What @glwood54 said. That SR5 is probably more than capable enough of what 99% if 4runner owners actually use them for.
     
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    %100 absolutely, I just prefer the manual 2WD to 4WD. Had that in both FJ's & the electronic in Tacoma. All personal preferences.
     
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    That's basically the main reason for my getting the OR. The manual TC shifter.
     
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    I definitely prefer this as well.
     
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    That was on my mind when doing this and in the yrs I owned my 17 TRDOR Taco and 19 TRDOR T4R I used the off-road features crawl control etc: 2 times.
     
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    Rumor is 2022 4Runners and Tacoma’s will be 6 or 8 speed automatic transmissions from what I heard at the dealer this week when talking about Toyota’s being a little behind the curve on mileage estimates. Other manufacturers are there already in there trucks and SUV’s....
     
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    Doesn't Ford have a 10 speed trans? Wow, almost as many gear options as a big truck.
     
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    I didn’t buy my 4Runner to save fuel, sure that would be a nice byproduct of a more versatile tranny but not if it compromises a winning formula. My friend bought a brand new Explorer ST and had to have bud 10 speed transmission replaced after only a couple of months. Slow and steady wins the race...lol
     
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    Interesting theory. I'm not sure what the 4L is. I used to own a car with a GM 3.8 V6 in it, that sounded good and was buttery smooth and quiet at idle. I also had a Grand Cherokee with a 4 L straight 6, that thing was nice and smooth and actually sounded not bad.

    The thing that gets me with the Toyota is all the valve train noise, you can hear at idle and when accelerating. Sounds like there's something internally wrong with it. It also is very rough, I'm still kind of surprised that Toyota felt that that was acceptable to put in one of their vehicles. Also, and I don't know if it's just me that thinks this, it seems like there is a lot of engine noise that intrudes into the cabin. It's not pleasant sounding at all, and it just gives the impression that the engine is always struggling.

    I've said it before, but I'll say it again, if the 4-liter made its a low end torque 1000 to 1500 RPM sooner, nobody would complain about it. It's the fact that you have to wind it out to get to its power peak is what makes it feel so slow. If you drive like a normal person, you never get into that rpm range.
     
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    I hear ya Brother! The 4.0 straight six, for that matter most straight sixes are good engines as far as sound..... and torque monsters at that!
     
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    This topic is gonna make me lose my mind. Again, people are reacting to the feel and long travel of the accelerator pedal. Objectively (as in factually, scientifically, like, you know, that thing called reality) the thing gets to 60 MPH in the mid 7s. What's more, that's a very typical number for an SUV or even a unibody crossover of similar size.

    Just because people "feel" like a bunch of slower cars they've driven are actually faster doesn't make it so. These days it's common for car makers to program their throttles to produce a jolt of 0-30 acceleration with little pressure on the pedal. They do this to create the illusion of more power than the car really has. That's fine and all -- people like it. But it doesn't change the actual reality of how quickly you can accelerate your Runner.

    The lack of critical thinking skills out there is an epidemic. One epidemic is more than enough, thank you very much :rofl:
     
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    Right here!! Last Monday got rid of my man trans, 2019 cement TRD OR premium and tech Tacoma, I couldn’t stand the 3.5 anymore at the 6800 ft I live (Colorado Springs). Even with the 4.30 gears stock.

    EDIT: I bought the wife a 2020
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    Seems to pop up every few months.

    Like you said, by the numbers it's right there with the competition, and even faster than some.

    I didn't fully mash the gas on mine until I had a few thousand miles on it. I was driving to Florida and needed (wanted) to get around a group of putzy drivers. I was actually shocked by how well it gained speed.

    Now, 500+ LBS and a set of 33's later, it still gets out of it's own way just fine for me.
     
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    "Just because people "feel" like a bunch of slower cars they've driven are actually faster doesn't make it so"

    Well I actually came from a twin turbo v6. Speed is no comparison, reliability is a different story.
     
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