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What is next for the Toyota 4runner?

Discussion in 'General 4Runner Talk' started by Ghood, Oct 12, 2020.

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Nov 13, 2020 at 11:21 AM

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I think the threat to the long term desirability and value of these trucks is actually EV. In an ICE world, the 4Runner has a combination of attributes that's very hard to match. And there's no reason to expect any car maker to build a new ICE vehicle that does match it.

But as EV technology improves over the next several years, there's gonna be a real question as to why someone would spend significant money on a used Runner.

It won't be for durability, reliability or mechanical simplicity. EVs should have a significant edge there.

It won't be for AWD and off-road ability, because that too can be done better by EVs. For example, having a motor at each axle or even at each wheel. And no need for exhausts, bulky transmissions and gas tanks that compromise ground clearance. An EV can have a virtually flat underbody that functions as one truck-length skid plate.

It won't be for cargo or passenger capacity, because EVs allow more flexibility in body design. EVs allow for flat floors and frunks in addition to trunks or hatches.

It probably won't be for range. At the rate of progress we're seeing now, in 5 or 10 years EVs might be getting 500 plus miles.

The prevalence and speed of fueling stations might still favor ICE several years from now, but that's offset to some extent for those with the ability to plug in at home. It may also be offset by advances in solar charging, which appears ready to make a big leap thanks to nano material technology.

So at some point the 4Runner will be desirable only to those who can't afford a new or near-new EV. And that means lower resale values for the 4Runner.

The only thing that can realistically prevent this eventuality would be the failure of car makers to offer EV SUVs with the ruggedness and capabilities of the 4Runner. For example, if they all decided that consumers only wanted Priuses and namby-pamby crossovers. But why would they? They would not. Mercedes is already working on an EV G Wagon. Jeep will surely make an EV Wrangler. Consumers will have a number of rugged and highly capable EV off roaders to choose from.

As the owner of a 2020 4Runner that stickered for almost 50K, I of course am not thrilled about this from a financial perspective. But I think it's inevitable that 10 years from now my Runner will be a cool and unstoppable old ICE truck with a lot of fond memories and continued utility -- but very little resale value.
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I agree with your thoughts regarding EV. I just think they need to outfit them with a 1000 watt stereo system with external speakers, sync'd with the accelerator pedal, with the sound of a big block V8 running headers and flowmasters coming out of it. Then it would be perfect.

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