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Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by T4Rrunning, May 25, 2021.

  1. Jan 3, 2022 at 2:55 PM
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    chris4639

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    Just was speaking to Wyler Toyota in Indiana. Wanted $2,500 market adjustment, I brought it down to MSRP, but they refuse to sell you the car without some ceramic coating that’s not a real coating and dent protection and other services that total up to $3,300. It was a 2022 ORP. So I’ll be looking for one still.
     
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  2. Jan 3, 2022 at 3:38 PM
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    Check with Peppers Toyota in Paris Tennessee. The do MSRP and didn't try to sell me other stuff. They even picked us up in Nashville since we flew in from Colorado mid -December.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2022 at 4:08 PM
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    That sucks! Most dealers around Minnesota(there are exceptions) are selling ORPs at msrp.I had to compromise but currently have a deposit down on a ORP lunar rock at MSRP about 1.5 hrs away. It’s eta is the last week of January. It had everything I wanted minus kdss, I just gave up on that color and kdss combo because I need a vehicle(my wife’s Honda Odyssey was considered total lose last Thursday).

    I found one that had everything I wanted in Chicago but they are charging a required extra 4900 for a gps device and some interior and exterior paint protection. They basically said at least we are giving you something instead of just marking up.
     
  4. Jan 3, 2022 at 8:59 PM
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    Will definitely give them a call. It doesn’t appear that they currently have any ORP’s but most dealers are being told this Wednesday what their allocations hold for the next month, so hopefully one comes up. I’m pretty much looking for one that’s just got the premium plus package for the MTS, and the sunroof. Thanks for the suggestion.
     
  5. Jan 3, 2022 at 8:59 PM
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    They said the same thing to me but I mean all these add ons for stuff I don’t want, and they wouldn’t even let me see the details of the add on’s until I signed the paper work. After I said I wasn’t gonna opt for that stuff he told me take my business to another dealer and hung up on me. It is what it is. Also, what dealer gave you MSRP with no add on’s?
     
  6. Jan 3, 2022 at 11:35 PM
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    In MN, the Luther dealership chain is doing MSRP but I'm a returning customer so they are doing 500 under MSRP. I put a refundable deposit down for them to locate a Lunar Rock ORP with KDSS(their estimates are 4-6 months). They haven't located anything for me yet so I found a Lunar Rock ORP at Toyota Mankato this past Saturday and put a deposit down on that and will be picking that up the last week of January when it gets here.
     
  7. Jan 4, 2022 at 4:19 AM
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    Yeah, MN seems pretty good. I'm getting a Pro from St Cloud at MSRP.
     
  8. Jan 4, 2022 at 5:12 AM
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    @chris4639
    Call Amy Workman 731-540-4440, tell them Bryan - picked up Lime Rush mid-December referred. Good Luck
     
  9. Jan 4, 2022 at 8:21 AM
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    I believe a worthwhile strategy is to wait until the last day of the month and start calling dealers with MSRP offers for any on-site vehicles that they have....... they are very monthly driven in terms of numbers ....at least they are in the Northeast.
     
  10. Jan 4, 2022 at 8:25 AM
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    It's really sad to read how some dealers are treating their prospects. Sign of the times I guess. I don't envy you guys having to search the entire USA in some cases. It's one thing for a dealer to charge MSRP, but what's with all the add-ons ? Sometimes in the thousands of dollars. Unless ordered that way by a specific customer, the dealer has no way of knowing if any buyer wants all those add-ons. Which brings me to a theory I have:
    The options that are not provided on the assembly line in Japan, but added Port Side or through the dealer, are likely very profitable for the dealership - and just as important, commissionable to the sales department. And with the current market, and shortage of 4R's, the inevitable greed steps in. They likely figure someone (sooner than later) will bite the bullit and just accept whats available on the dealer's terms. Unfortunately, it is still a sellers market. I wish you guys all the luck.

    I just read that the pricing for used vehicles is up 49% from a year ago !!!
     
  11. Jan 4, 2022 at 8:30 AM
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    interesting, as I just checked the trade value of my taco, and its down by about 3 grand.
     
  12. Jan 4, 2022 at 8:33 AM
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    Maybe in a typical market. But right now they don't exactly have a lot full of cars they need to sell. Everything is selling as fast as they can get them. Any tricks or ideas based on the leverage of the buyer is useless right now.
     
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  13. Jan 4, 2022 at 8:40 AM
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    I realize some need a new vehicle right away. But if you can, keep driving what you have for another 3-4 months and see what the market looks like then.
     
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  14. Jan 5, 2022 at 10:09 AM
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    Damn, I'm having my boyfriend contact them...he's a salesman to see if he can swindle down their market adjustment that they have yet to tell me about. What's there average market adjustment? I've just seen the MSRP price...
     
  15. Jan 5, 2022 at 10:13 AM
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    They wanted a $5K market adjustment on a TRD ORP I was talking to them about. I didn’t buy it.
     
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  16. Jan 5, 2022 at 10:15 AM
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    I'm having him call them regarding a pro, so if he doesn't get it where he wants it, he will tell them no. I had him do it because I have SUCKER written all over my face and I don't want to get had. They have exactly what I want and it's so disappointing to see them doing those crazy market adjustments...ugh.
     
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    Right on the front page of my dealer's website. Jason Webber was my salesman. I have worked at dealers in the past and in all my years in the industry, this was the most standup honest dealer I have ever seen.
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  19. Jan 5, 2022 at 5:15 PM
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    I thought you already placed a deposit on a TRD Pro at a dealership? Is this the same dealer you have your deposit with?
     
  20. Jan 5, 2022 at 7:09 PM
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    From Larry H Miller Toyota Lemon Grove (San Diego, Ca.):

    Our market adjustment is 8,999 on all 4runner's, although we do negotiate in store and would be more than happy to put a better deal together for you.

    Wouldn't buy from them if my life depended on it!
     
  22. Jan 6, 2022 at 10:44 AM
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    Oh I did and I'm still waiting. I was just seeing if I could get one earlier, but they marked it up and then they got really pushy so I gave up!
     
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    GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!

    More folks need to walk away from these dealers. These vehicles are worth what we are willing to pay for them, if we walk away from the overpriced ones, the dealerships will have to reduce the prices or keep paying to keep them on the lot. Dealerships can complain about not making any money, but they are also saving in some areas, such as paying for vehicles sitting on the lots.
     
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    Yeah I don't like it when you try to trick me into making a quick sell. The guy was like you need to hurry up because someone is here getting their car appraised.....blah blah blah. In my head I'm like well good for them lol
     
  25. Jan 6, 2022 at 2:20 PM
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    Don’t buy from Shottenkirk Toyota in the DFW area. See email correspondence below

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  26. Jan 6, 2022 at 2:26 PM
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    Tell him he will owe you $1k bc there are lots of dealerships selling at MSRP, 3 in Va that I know of.
     
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    I had a dealer tell me I'd never find one. I got one 2 days later. I wish he had offered that bet.
     
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    Just bought LR TRD Pro from John Timmons at Four Stars Toyota in Altus, OK. Easy, did everything remotely. Add to the list of MSRP dealers. Was originally looking at AG ORP, but LR TRD Pro showed as being available, so nabbed it.

    You may want to check with him about upcoming allocations.

    I will let you know if we receive another one on the next allocation. These Green TRD Off Road 4Runners are hard to keep. People are calling from all over putting deposits on them since we do not charge over msrp and our doc fee is only 289. Give me a call if you have any questions.

    Thanks and sorry again,
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  29. Jan 6, 2022 at 9:42 PM
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    So the dealer you put a deposit on that was gonna sell to you originally at MSRP changed the price on you? that’s sucks.
     
  30. Jan 7, 2022 at 6:41 AM
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    No this was another dealership. Currently I have a deposit on one that is at MSRP. I have just been looking around to see if I can snag one earlier. I've got another dealership that is going to call me if the deal falls through on one, he said the customer was 50/50 on buying it and I'll know about that one in February. I have another dealership that is keeping an eye out on their inventory, he emails me periodically to update me. Talking to people is one thing I enjoy doing so I contacted multiple dealerships and spoke with them and have multiple eyes watching out for one.
     
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