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Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by T4Rrunning, May 25, 2021.

  1. Nov 21, 2021 at 8:29 AM
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    Burnt Taco

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    Yes. Many dealerships have become thugs and mongrels. Research shows that nitrogen does have some benefit but what about airing down on the trail. Ceramic coating and tint have benefits as well but not at those gouging prices.
    Sheesh.
    Caveat Emptor is the order of the day.
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  2. Nov 21, 2021 at 2:52 PM
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    I bought at MSRP from Gettel Toyota at Lakeside in Bradenton, Florida. Highly recommended; talk to Terry Dingus. Used are likely at market values. Yesterday they had a really clean FJ for sale.

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  3. Nov 22, 2021 at 2:49 PM
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    I had the perfect experience with Rusty Wallace Toyota - Morristown, TN. (https://www.rustywallacetoyota.com/) No over MSRP pricing. We picked our 4Runner up within 5 hours of it arriving on the lot. We were there less than an hour. Worked with Jimmy Campbell & Rusty Shropshire.

    Another local no over MSRP dealership is Fox Toyota in Clinton, TN. They were very nice and helpful, but they just didn't have the allocation we wanted.

    List of Shame - Toyota Knoxville - at least $10k over MSRP and completely unapologetic.
     
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  4. Nov 22, 2021 at 3:16 PM
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    Not sure the dealership but just saw this.

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  5. Nov 22, 2021 at 4:30 PM
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    Ya those rav4 primes were crazy hot for a bit, not sure about now.
     
  6. Nov 22, 2021 at 5:35 PM
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    I can add to this as looking to get a Pro. Went to Atlanta Toyota and was told on top of these add ones there is a $10k market adjustment for all Pros. Was told non-negotiable and they have a list of people paying with no questions asked. Apparently he told me they had brokers buying their cars and reselling them for $15k more. I have purchased at least four Toyotas from them in the past and will be looking elsewhere.
     
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  7. Nov 24, 2021 at 3:37 AM
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    Sales guy at AutoNation in Tempe AZ said they just got a Lime Rush Pro in and want 15K "market adjustment". Went from 1K two weeks ago to 5K last week and now 15K. Whoa!
     
  8. Nov 24, 2021 at 5:06 AM
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    Hmmmm that’s weird….. I’ve been working with them too and there is no mention of this- I’m waiting for a lime rush with them and they have one in the pipeline but nothing in person yet. Also been checking their website and no lime rush showing. My guy also specifically said the markup was def not that high. I guess only time will tell…. I should have numbers/paperwork today.
     
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  9. Nov 24, 2021 at 5:30 AM
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    I was told by two sales people (one apparently horning in on my guy) last night that a Lime Rush Pro was or had landed and that the "big boss" wanted it sold for 15K market adjustment. I do hope your guy is able to honor your deal. Seems to be a bit of a feeding frenzy going on. Glad to hear that you are getting something on paper. Website is not reflecting reality.
     
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  10. Nov 24, 2021 at 5:38 AM
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    I hope so too…. It’s so unfortunate, all of the shenanigans. I’ll keep you updated here!
     
  11. Nov 24, 2021 at 5:39 AM
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    Yeah, keep your head and do your thing.
     
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  12. Nov 24, 2021 at 10:03 AM
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    How much would a top of the line Lime Rush paint job cost on a 4R?
     
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    Top of the line, with proper prep work and painting the jambs and trim would probably be between $15-$20k. I bet you could get a vinyl wrap for a couple grand though.
     
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  14. Nov 24, 2021 at 11:51 AM
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    Hi Guys, found this site and decided to join if for nothing else to clear a mistake.

    I currently work at John Elway's Crown Toyota (don't worry, I'm not here to solicit anything) and have been here for 3 years and in the business in every aspect for nearly 30 years.

    Crown Toyota DOES NOT have a mark up and since John Elway's name has been on the store, they never have. Not even when dealers were marking up Supras.

    I think I read somewhere that Crown Toyota had a mark up of $7K on an SR5 (something about a broker). NOT TRUE.

    Managers are not allowed to send paperwork to finance if the price is over MSRP and if they do, the finance department catches it and sends it back. It used to be before this craziness John Elway's Crown Toyota was a One Price store below MSRP with no haggling. Obviously given the current climate, things have changed but they are definitely not over MSRP. The sales staff gets paid a flat rate for each car which means if they sell you a Corolla or a 4Runner, they get paid exactly the same hence they are not there to upsell you on a higher trim model because they make more money because they simply don't. Honestly the salesman gets screwed there but then again, the salesman sells more cars due to the "One Price.Simple.No Games" process which our clients love. In the Inland Empire there are roughly about 8-10 Toyota dealers and we are the ONLY ones NOT MARKING up our prices hence the lack of inventory at our store. The dealers who do have a handful of vehicles in stock have it because of the mark up. Unfortunately, we as well as some other dealers have enforced Toyota's 25 mile rule. This rule has always been in place however when inventory was plentiful, no one cared but now that it's not, we have to be fair to our local clients. At Crown Toyota we can still sell you a vehicle if you're outside our market but the vehicle has to be in stock and we cannot take a deposit on any incoming vehicle. The only way around that is if you are a previous customer.

    A couple of things I'll mention. Crown Toyota used to put lift-kits, over-sized tires and rims on certain models for a pretty penny however being one of the largest dealers we always had a twin or 3 of that same model you can buy without the add-ons. With the global chip shortage John Elway's Crown Toyota paused doing this as inventory was scarce but from time to time they will do it and maybe this is what the other person who claimed $7K over meant but again, John Elway's Crown Toyota does NOT MARK up prices.

    On a different note, I read something about Longo and out of state, sales tax or shipping. In the beautiful state of CA, if a customer drives off the lot, the dealer is required to charge sales tax for the county the client lives in however if the client is out of state and he/she drives off the lot then the dealer is required to charge sales tax where the dealer is located and in Longo's case that's a whopping 10%. The only way around this is if the vehicle is shipped. No new car franchise dealer will risk their franchise, just not worth it.


    Anyways, I just wanted to mention that. Happy Thanksgiving folks!
     
  15. Nov 24, 2021 at 2:26 PM
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    From your post that I’ve quoted, it sounds like you were on the right path to clear things up UNTIL you mentioning “Reading something about Longo”.

    If you have no evidence of their practice, then you’re just adding to the slander that you’re trying to avoid about your dealership.

    Lack of inventory seems to be a problem at all dealerships right now and your dealerships NO MARKUP practice may not be the reason.

    To be clear, I’m not defending any dealership. If your dealership or ANY dealership has the vehicle I’m looking to purchase AND sell it to me at MSRP, consider it sold.
     
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  16. Nov 24, 2021 at 4:50 PM
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    Actually, you misunderstood me, I'm by no means slandering ANY dealership good or bad. On this very thread someone said something about not purchasing a vehicle from Longo because they wanted to charge CA sales tax for an out of state customer or have the customer pay for shipping. I was just commenting on why (the dealer Longo in this case) took that stance.

    Regarding selling at MSRP, any new vehicle we have is sold at MSRP period, no if's, and's or but's about it however as I indicated, you have to live within 25 miles or be a previous customer.

    I'm not here to get you to buy from me but rather to clear up what I read on this particular thread about Crown Toyota marking up SR5's $7K and I actually went through all 14 pages of comments hence why I decided to chime in. Hope that was clear enough.


    Happy Holidays!
     
  17. Nov 24, 2021 at 6:28 PM
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    Like I said in my earlier post, you were going in the right direction trying to clear up what practices your dealership follow.

    Hear say is just that. Not everything on this or any other thread is true.

    It would be good business practice to focus on YOUR dealership and leave others out of the conversation.

    I didn’t get the impression that you were trying to get me to purchase from your dealership. That wasn’t even my point.
     
  18. Nov 24, 2021 at 9:59 PM
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    I was commenting on a post from this thread as to the legal reason why a dealer would ask an out of state customer to pay CA sales tax or pay for shipping and in no way shape or form slandering them..quite the opposite but my mistake, I should have posted the thread instead to make it clear. Sorry

    Happy Holidays!
     
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    Hello Sir! Just wondering if you guys have a wait list for the Tacoma pro? And if so, how many people are on it?
     
  20. Nov 25, 2021 at 1:52 AM
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    No apologies needed! Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving.
     
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  21. Nov 25, 2021 at 4:59 AM
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    This is a stand up post and I commend you for setting the record straight.
     
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    I think they had a great post and shared info to help us understand why Longo may have told the customer what they did.

    I also didn’t know about the 25 mile rule, I would think it needs to be more than 25 miles, but good on those that are following the rules.

    Oh and as an Elway fan, glad to here his dealerships are treating folks right.
     
  23. Nov 25, 2021 at 2:06 PM
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    Lots of news services are reporting that Toyota is ramping up production again and has somehow figured out the chip shortage issue. Maybe there is hope of getting things more normal…..
     
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    We can only hope!
     
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  26. Nov 26, 2021 at 9:44 PM
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  27. Nov 27, 2021 at 1:46 AM
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    Sorry should have been more specific. They’re charging MSRP.
     
  28. Nov 28, 2021 at 9:25 PM
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    Purchased my new 2022 4runner SR5 at msrp on Friday from Autonation Toyota ft.Myers, FL. Great service and honest staff! found what I was looking for after contacting mutiple dealers and being charged a markup from 4-10k from different FL dealers (Toyota of Orlando, Toyota of Clermont, and Toyota of North Miami) Definitely stay away from North Miami, they are thieves and extremely rude.

    Also another dealer with msrp was Toyota of Jacksonville.
     
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  29. Nov 30, 2021 at 9:40 AM
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    I can now confirm that Autonation Toyota in Tempe is charging a $15k ‘market adjustment’ on the trd pros. That’s almost $80k for a 4Runner and that’s ridiculous. My guy is currently “seeing what he can do for me” but Jeep also just offered me $44k for my 2019 4Runner….. we’ll see what happens….
     
  30. Nov 30, 2021 at 11:11 AM
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    Time to look at the list of MSRP dealerships and put your business with someone who doesn't take you for granted. My locals wanted $12.5k and didn't even offer my choice in color - taking my business to Tennessee and once I have my car back in Colorado, those dealerships will not see any of my business. I figure flying my wife and I out to TN, adding gas, food, etc. on the nice road trip, that I'll save 11-12K ;)
     

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