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Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by T4Rrunning, May 25, 2021.

  1. Nov 10, 2021 at 10:26 AM
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    justright

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    agreed on the last part. Found another dealer about 2hrs north that has a $2k markup on an SR5P but when I asked about addons, the manager said “our aftermarket department is huge, so if you want anything we can do it. But we don’t force extras on you for no reason.”

    I’m probably going with a used Limited but I found frankness more respectable than trying to swindle me with a $1k app for nothing.
     
  2. Nov 10, 2021 at 10:59 AM
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    Unbelievable. Like a story out of a fiction book. Hard to believe the consumer end of the market could be this desperate. But apparently, some segmants are.
     
  3. Nov 10, 2021 at 11:06 AM
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    and it will only stop if enough consumers refuse to do business with gougers.
     
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  4. Nov 10, 2021 at 12:06 PM
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    The people here (Colorado Springs) went through phases - now at the $12500 Market Adjustment (beyond the $7500 a few weeks ago). Small wonder I'll be getting my Lime Rush Pro next month in Tennessee. Saves thousands even with a flight to Nashville, hotels for the drive back and meals for my wife and I - plus we get a road trip out of the deal through a part of the country we've never driven though. ;)
     
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  5. Nov 10, 2021 at 12:53 PM
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    This is exactly what I did and was well worth it. Nebraska to California and stopped at 3 nationals parks on the way back :)

    Saved well over $10k
     
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  6. Nov 10, 2021 at 7:16 PM
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    We did the same...bought in Denver, then drove back to Houston. Stopped at Garden of the Gods on our way through town and Palo Duro Canyon State Park on the way through the panhandle. In the future, give Mountain States Toyota in Denver a chance. No market adjustment and a very easy and low pressure buying experience.
     
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  7. Nov 12, 2021 at 4:23 AM
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    My friend put a 1K "deposit" down on a Lime Rush Pro three months ago at Desert Toyota here in Tucson. No ink to paper and he agreed to a 5K "market adjustment". (I wouldn't but he was OK with it). He was promised by his salesman that he was first in line. He confirmed it with the salesman last week who said the deal was still in place. I noticed on their website that a Lime Rush Pro was featured on their website yesterday and when I congratulated him on his new ride he was confused. He texted the salesman and asked what was up as he wasn't notified. My friend immediately got a call from the sales manager who said " we have another buyer who's willing to pay 15K "market adjustment" and if you aren't then you can come and get your check". My friend stated all the above facts and the manager threw the salesman under the bus by saying "he made a mistake" and aggressively reiterated that " it's 15K plus $1500 in add- on's, do it or your check is waiting". We were on speaker and I heard the entire conversation. Guy was an aggressive prick to my friend and he couldn't give a shit about his unconscionable behavior. My hope is that Desert Toyota will have bad juju now and reap what they sow. Friend is contacting Corporate but I doubt there will be any consequences for the dealership plus in all honesty my friend should have had something on paper. No honor among thieves. Verbal agreement and a hand shake means nothing today. Bummer.
     
  8. Nov 12, 2021 at 4:29 AM
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    On another note .... Last week AutoNation in Tempe AZ was selling Pros with a 1K "market adjustment" which is up to 5K this week.
     
  9. Nov 12, 2021 at 10:35 AM
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    That sales manager needs a good old fashioned ass whooping.
     
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  10. Nov 12, 2021 at 10:38 AM
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    Sounds like your friend needs to make up some signs and stand in front of this dealership, telling everyone just how big of a rip off this dealership is.
     
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  11. Nov 13, 2021 at 12:47 PM
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    SCAMMING Dealership = Sheehy Toyota in Fredericksburg VA lied to me. I inquired about a TRD Pro that is on their allocation to receive in a few weeks. It was available, and I asked specifically "do you sell at MSRP and without any add-on packages?". I was told, "absolutely. We do Not do any market adjustments or add-ons".

    I was waiting for a call to take my info for a deposit, and that came this morning... it was a different person, however, so I asked again, "so the price is simply MSRP plus tax/tags/title fees and nothing else, correct?". The response was "no market adjustments, but we do require you to purchase a "Resistall" treatment. It protects your paint and leather". "Ummmm well there's no leather, but I'll consider it.. how much?" "$2000. I politely told him that , "#1. I don't do business with liars, and #2, I will NOT do business with gougers" and hung up.

    Resistall is a scam to begin with and the prices I have seen are in the $500 - $700 range... so it's no different than a markup.
     
  12. Nov 13, 2021 at 2:55 PM
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    my search keeps turning up gougers... Priority Toyota in Springfield VA and Gatorland Toyota in Gainesville FL. both add-on packages AND a market adjustment (varies by trim package, but they said that ALL vehicles get the added "market adjustment").
     
  13. Nov 15, 2021 at 9:09 PM
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    Rizen

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    Unfortunately Wyler Toyota in Indiana is now adding a $2500 market adjustment. You can remove them from the list while my hunt for a ORP continues. :(
     
  14. Nov 15, 2021 at 10:10 PM
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    drr

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    Just picked up my SR5P from Larson Toyota of Tacoma (WA) at MSRP with no markup. The sales manager mentioned that it was a little strange that it was listed at MSRP, usually there is some markup, but he let the price stand. May have been my lucky day.

    In my search, I also worked with Michaels Toyota of Bellevue, who stated that they were a no-markup dealership. They had no available trucks though, and lead time was 3-4 months.
     
  15. Nov 16, 2021 at 2:46 AM
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    I have been communicating via email with Wyler in Clarksville Indiana too and the MSRP question has gone unanswered so I have moved on. I have since found another dealer (in Ohio) that looks promising and I will post the specifics to this thread if it works out. Don’t want to recommend until I’m sure they are solid.
     
  16. Nov 16, 2021 at 4:41 AM
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    Yeah.. this is the issue. The dealers that are NOT marking up have a waiting list for vehicles not even shipped from Japan yet.
     
  17. Nov 16, 2021 at 8:12 PM
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    Koons Toyota with six dealerships in Maryland and Northern Virginia show 97 4R's on their website with six Pro's. They show four Lime Rush's with a range of $73,335 - $77,963 and two unknown colors (B, W or MGM) with a range of $65,418 - $65,578. I would be surprised if they actually had ten unclaimed 4R's onsite between their six dealerships.

    Jeez! I now feel like I stole my 21 LR Pro for $2,000 above MSRP in May ($54,000 total)!
     
  18. Nov 18, 2021 at 2:20 PM
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    Saw a lime rush at Cavendar today, 70k for a spacer lift and 285s..
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  19. Nov 18, 2021 at 2:29 PM
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    I’m a bit surprised the dealer installed 285s on the stock TRD rim considering a 285 should really be on a 7.5” minimum. Liability issues and all.

    I remember when the local mazda dealer wouldn’t sell me 17” winter rims for my CX5 GT because it came with 19”s.

    Unless that was just their personal policy.
     
  20. Nov 18, 2021 at 2:39 PM
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    Fvck that "Add $10K Market Value Adjustment" Hope they go bankrupt the POS thieves!!!!
     
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  21. Nov 19, 2021 at 7:03 AM
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    Talk about having your ears ripped off your head. LOL
     
  22. Nov 19, 2021 at 7:04 AM
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    I almost waited for a 2022 before I even knew the color of the new Pro. Glad I was able to secure my lunar '21 for msrp. Sheesh things are all over the place right now and dealers are getting even more greedy.
     
  23. Nov 19, 2021 at 7:20 AM
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    Camelback Toyota in phx is NOT msrp. Just spoke with a sales rep who said $10k over msrp plus $1300 in adds
     
  24. Nov 19, 2021 at 8:29 AM
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    I can confirm Salinas Toyota sells at MSRP.
    Only add ons were floor mats and cargo cover.
    Had a dead simple buying experience with them.
    Jasmine was awesome, made everything easy considering I live almost 300 miles from the dealer.
    Drove my 2022 TRD Pro home last night!
     
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  25. Nov 19, 2021 at 9:14 AM
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    Congrats on the new car - I'm actually waiting on a Lime Rush Pro to be delivered in TN at an MSRP dealership - I live in Colorado and my local dealerships are crazy - will not even do my services with them :mad:
    Will fly to Nashville for $200 (wife and me) - and take a nice road trip back - even with gas, food, hotels, save thousands from the $12.5K "Market Adjustment".

    Question: Is there a way to get that list on the first page of this thread updated with additions to the MSRP dealerships as well as the "Wall of Shame " list? It would be nice to be able to refer to it for anybody that is contemplating a new car.
     
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  26. Nov 20, 2021 at 4:11 PM
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    Feel free to add Camelback to the list of Shame. Although they will let you negotiate the markup. Isn't that nice?
     
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  27. Nov 20, 2021 at 4:12 PM
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    I've been dealing with Jazmin as well. I've changed things up a bit, so I'm currently hoping she can get me into a rav4 hybrid.
     
  28. Nov 20, 2021 at 5:30 PM
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    Coming from someone who just picked up a Pro at MSRP… I will say, dealers have less inventory - they’ve gotta make up for it somehow right?
     
  29. Nov 21, 2021 at 6:28 AM
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    Commence mod sequence in 4--3--2--1.... Broke! We have bankruptcy!
    Moderators/OP can decide if this is wall of shame worthy, but it certainly is in my book. Atlanta Toyota is putting minimum $5K markup (ok, $4995 BS protection add-on), on even an SR5 4x2. I'm looking for an ORP anyway and we bought our RAV4 there a few years ago, but when I asked about eliminating or reducing it, they looked at me like "You and that MSRP nonsense can walk out now, or we'll have Little Tony and Guido show you to the dumpster...." I mean he looked at me like I personally insulted his grandmother, because a returning customer dared to insinuate his magic coatings weren't worth $5000 of my hard-earned money.

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  30. Nov 21, 2021 at 8:01 AM
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    Nitrogen filled tires?!?! Do they think you plan on using it 20k' and above?!?! Fvcking JOKE & an Insult to anyone who knows !!!!. Plus I'd like to actually see the nitro bottle they used to service them with too.
     

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