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Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by T4Rrunning, May 25, 2021.

  1. Oct 28, 2021 at 5:28 AM
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    Surfinjoe

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    Which dealer?
     
  2. Oct 31, 2021 at 5:45 AM
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    I talked to them yesterday. Guy was super nice but stated that it would be 2-3k over MSRP and then sent me an invoice for 5k over and said sorry I was on vacation last week, this is what we are charging now.
     
  3. Nov 2, 2021 at 8:15 AM
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    Hey there, I know what you mean. I agonized quite a bit. We had a camper earlier in the year but decided to go back to tent camping, so no longer needed to tow. We have a 2 year old and a medium sized dog. Here are my observations so far:
    • Even after adding Wildpeak AT3Ws, MPGs are way better. We were averaging about 13-14 MPG in mixed driving in the Tundra, and are now getting around 18-21 MPG in the 4Runner.
    • The 4Runner is massively better off road. I knew it would be ultimately more capable but didn’t expect it to be so much more enjoyable in moderate situations. Even in situations that the Tundra could probably handle, the 4Runner is smoother and more confident. It’s just more fun and relaxing.
    • Rear seat room is still plenty even though it’s a little smaller.
    • The infotainment is much better—having CarPlay is great.
    • I’m 6’3”. Some people have complained about front seat room in the 4Runner but I haven’t had any issues. We’ve had a 6 hour drive so far and I was completely comfortable. I don’t have a sunroof so maybe that’s why.
    • Being able to fit in the garage is AWESOME. You’re really correct about that :)
    • Having an enclosed space in the back for the doggo is also great. It’s way easier than putting her on the seat then spending an hour vacuuming up the hair.
    • As far as the truck bed goes, I can’t really think of a situation where a utility trailer wouldn’t suffice, so I’m keeping an eye out on Craigslist or will just rent a cheap one when necessary.
    • The Tundra was definitely a better highway cruiser. Ride quality is similar, but the power of that 5.7 really makes a difference. I live in CO and the 4.0 in the 4Runner is adequate but definitely not as effortless as the Tundra. Overall, I think it’s worth the sacrifice for the better MPG, more useful cargo area and off-road abilities.
    At the end of the day, it’s a 4Runner and it’ll hold it’s value until the sun dies out and Earth is just a frozen, dead block of ice. So if you end up not liking it, you can always sell it for a minimal loss and go back to a truck. It seems like a big decision when you’re in the midst of it, but at the end of the day, there’s really no bad option for you. Good luck!
     
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  4. Nov 2, 2021 at 9:31 AM
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    Cobb County Toyota, in Kennesaw, Ga. just ordered a TRD OP at MSRP plus tax with no doc fee. Ask for Blake.
     
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  5. Nov 4, 2021 at 8:45 AM
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    Sorry just saw this. It was Culver City Toyota. That unit sold a few days ago.
     
  6. Nov 5, 2021 at 5:45 AM
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    Great Lakes Toyota and Subaru in Findlay Ohio sold me my new 2022 4Runner at MSRP and their sales staff (Drew) were great!
     
  7. Nov 5, 2021 at 6:25 AM
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    Robinson Toyota in Jackson Tn and Kerry Toyota in Florence KY are MSRP dealers with no market adjustment.
     
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  8. Nov 5, 2021 at 6:34 AM
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  9. Nov 5, 2021 at 7:04 AM
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    There seems to be some softing going on in the market. I agreed to buy one of my ORP's at MSRP. Weeks after placing my deposit the finance manager called to asked how I was planning on purchasing since I was out of town. I told him I was paying cash, but would consider a low rate option and transfer my cash to managed money.

    Bottomline- they gave me a 2.24% rate and discounted the 4Runner $1,500 off MSRP if I would take the 2.24% rate and not pay it off in the first 3 months. They must be getting some incentives on the finance side.
     
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  10. Nov 5, 2021 at 7:28 AM
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  11. Nov 5, 2021 at 1:48 PM
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  12. Nov 5, 2021 at 2:39 PM
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    When I first clicked on the link, I saw the green and before my brain could slow down to remember that green isn’t a 22 pro color, I had already shown my wife and we were going to call. But then I slowed down and it all came back to me.
     
  13. Nov 5, 2021 at 2:45 PM
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    This listing states black?
     
  14. Nov 5, 2021 at 3:25 PM
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    Yes it does, but the first photo is green. So I saw green pro before reading.
     
  15. Nov 5, 2021 at 3:32 PM
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  16. Nov 5, 2021 at 3:35 PM
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    Ah. I didn’t click on any of the pictures when I saw a stock photo as pic #1
     
  17. Nov 5, 2021 at 3:40 PM
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    the green caught my eye.
     
  18. Nov 5, 2021 at 3:54 PM
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    yuo. Still a good chance to grab a new ride for anyone feeling impatient.
     
  19. Nov 5, 2021 at 10:29 PM
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    Well, I have good news and bad news. I just had a very good experience buying a 2022 4Runner ORP from Mountain States Toyota in Denver for just under MSRP. However, apparently the GM has put out the notice to their team yesterday that they will not be doing any sales to out of state customers going forward for the foreseeable future. So if you are coming from another state and have a vehicle on the way with them, it would be a great idea to call them and check to make sure your deal is still on. On the other hand, if you are from Colorado, the experience I had was very low pressure and easy all the way through, and I would recommend them highly to anybody in the market for a new vehicle.

    They seem committed to not charging any market adjustments, and I think the GM is worried that people may be coming in and buying from them, then reselling elsewhere for a markup. Given how tight the market is and their desire to sell vehicles to local customers who will be coming back to them for service, I totally understand his position. I am just really happy that they honored our deal and didn’t call me yesterday to pull out of it. We sometimes expect very little from the sales tactics of dealerships, but I am very happy to say that the MST team did a great job and spent a lot of time with us on a Friday night due to our plane getting into Denver late.
     
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  20. Nov 6, 2021 at 5:36 AM
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    AutoNation in Tempe AZ is selling 4R at MSRP. Pros going 1K over for market adjustment. You have to connect with a sales person and have them bird dog it. Units are sold before hitting the port. New allotments come in 1st and 15th of each month. My ORP hit port last night. Ink to paper today. Josh was my guy.
     
  21. Nov 8, 2021 at 9:11 AM
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    Just exchanged some interesting emails with a couple of folks from Jones Toyota in Bel Air Maryland. They will NOT come down from a minimum $5K markup on any 4 Runner (more on Pros and ORPs). They said "but we're still interested in your trade-in!"... Ha... I would drive my trade-in into the ground before I spent one dime on a greedy dealership trying to cheat people openly. Not happening.

    Don't they realize that we can get an airline ticket to an MSRP dealer anywhere in the country for much less than that?
     
  22. Nov 8, 2021 at 9:18 AM
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    your looking at this all wrong. I would go in and work them hard for the trade, once you come to the agreed amount, then you include the 5k Chip shortage mark up.
     
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  23. Nov 8, 2021 at 9:22 AM
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    Ha!! true... I could just trade them the chip from my current vehicle for a $5K credit and then part-out the rest on my own.
     
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  24. Nov 8, 2021 at 9:19 PM
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    What’s everyone’s take on dealerships that claim MSRP but have 2-3k in “addons?” Obviously no one wants to be above MSRP on their loan, especially in case of an accident. However, I’m trying to capitalize on the equity on my current vehicle as it’s worth basically what I paid for it 2 years ago. So I’m torn, paying MSRP + addons but offsetting that with equity, or just sitting this round out. This is for an SR5P so it’s not too hard finding them at MSRP at least, but everyone has addons of some sort.
     
  25. Nov 9, 2021 at 1:39 PM
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    I think it depends on the addons. My 4R ORP had about $1,500 of silly addons - window etching, nitrogen filled tires and couple of other small things. I kept "insisting" they take them off the deal the sales manager kept "insisting" it's the standard way the dealership prep's every car.... He tried to have me split the costs, so $750. In the end I got up from the table and started to walk out and he came after me and shook my hand saying we have a deal. I purchased at MSRP. This was in September, and this is a dealership that I have purchased three 4Runner's from since 2019. If the addons are a Toyota extended warranty or maintenance plan....I think you need to evaluate the value to you...if they are stupid items like my dealership tried to sell me on .... then no way.
     
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  26. Nov 9, 2021 at 1:56 PM
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    I agree, it depends on the add-ons.

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  27. Nov 9, 2021 at 2:12 PM
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    12k+ over MRSP.... LMAO
     
  28. Nov 10, 2021 at 7:58 AM
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    Please add "Koch 33" Toyota in Easton PA to the list of dealers who are taking advantage of hardworking Americans with a "market adjustment" on all 4Runner models. These lists need to last beyond the current supply chain shortage to make sure that the consequences of their greed are long lasting.
     
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  29. Nov 10, 2021 at 8:08 AM
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    This is what I found at Miller Toyota in Manassas VA. over the phone, "of course we sell at MSRP... no markups!".. but when I test-drove, the salesman said, "yes, it will be MSRP, but you have to purchase our extended warranty package for $3K". Not 100% against that, but after asking for more details on the "warranty", it seems that it provides VERY little coverage. All it does is extends some of the factory warrant limitations, i.e. instead of a mileage limit, it shifts to the time-limit... so if you put a lot of miles on a car quickly, it MIGHT provide some value, however, very doubtful. In my mind they should just mark it up and stop splitting hairs.
     
  30. Nov 10, 2021 at 8:17 AM
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    Am in Phoenix helping a friend track down a Pro. Just an FYI.....

    Right Toyota had a Lime Green Pro we went to see. Sold that morning before we arrived for MSRP + $25k! Understand this is Scottsdale, but still eye watering number.
    I spoke with one salesman while friend spoke with another about an ORP they had on the lot. We both heard nearly identical story from both salesmen:

    They had one of the last Land Cruisers left in the state this summer. MSRP around $90k. Dealer added tires/wheels/tint/modest lift, their cost approx. $10k. Listed it for a unreasonable price, sold it for $180k. Understand the last year for LC and one of the last ones available in a market that has Bentleys/GT3RS's/Aventador's, etc. running around like Camry's, but still..............
     
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