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MSRP Dealerships List Them

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by T4Rrunning, May 25, 2021.

  1. Oct 11, 2021 at 5:07 AM
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    rickystl

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    Talking about having your ears ripped off !!!!
     
  2. Oct 11, 2021 at 9:25 AM
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    Just took delivery of a new '22 Limited at Bob Richards Toyota in North Augusta (Beech Island) SC. They initially quoted MSRP + $1795 addendum that includes window tint, nitrogen, floor mats, and a 250K mile powertrain warranty, but they were willing to discount the addendum off. They also discounted out the options that attached in Japan (Toyoguard, Door protection package, dual USB charger) and deleted all of the port options - so I got out for straight MSRP plus tax and doc fee.

    This is the same place I bought our '17, and it's sister dealership for my mother in law's Nissan Rogue, so I'm not sure if there was some consideration given for the repeat purchase. I was told they're not marking up anything except the TRD Pro.

    Service was great. They worked with two other dealerships to do a three way trade for our Limited. Something about trading something in their inventory for a different Limited, then trading that one for ours at a third dealership.
     
  3. Oct 11, 2021 at 9:45 AM
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    It is insane. I was quoted 66,336 for a 22 ORP with a 2.5 lift, aftermarket wheels and tires. Original sticker price was 49k.
     
  4. Oct 11, 2021 at 9:48 AM
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  5. Oct 11, 2021 at 1:53 PM
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    People in the SF Bay Area are actually willing to pay $10k over MSRP. There is a Lime Rush for $10k over MSRP at SF Toyota and it sold after a few days after being in the showroom. People in the SF Bay area just have too much money to not to care.
     
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  6. Oct 11, 2021 at 1:58 PM
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    I'm in SoCal - went and checked out a Lime Rush the day it arrived at the lot. It sold that night for $13k over.

    I can't understand the mindset that would make such a decision.
     
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  7. Oct 11, 2021 at 2:55 PM
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    How about $30k over MSRP? Saw this a few months back.

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  8. Oct 11, 2021 at 3:00 PM
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    That's still happening. Right Toyota in AZ has one for the same price.
     
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  9. Oct 11, 2021 at 4:44 PM
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    Shiet for that kind of mark up, I'll just sell out at that point and buy into a Range Rover Sport.

    You sir, win today for biggest WTF pricing on a T4R!
     
  10. Oct 11, 2021 at 7:28 PM
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    Does anyone knows the msrp for a SR5 premium last year, I just want to know how much I got rip off. Maybe I should wait 2 years when this crazy thing come down to buy a new car.
     
  11. Oct 11, 2021 at 7:42 PM
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    I bought mine from Bryan Easler in Hendersonville for MSRP
     
  12. Oct 11, 2021 at 7:42 PM
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    Not offhand, but you can probably find it with some googling. Based on dealer talk, and news articles regarding chip shortage - it sounds like this will be going on at least through 2022. But some say even longer.

    I think getting something under MSRP is a steal right now. Paying MSRP is not terrible, but not great.

    If you can wait, wait.
     
  13. Oct 12, 2021 at 2:17 AM
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    I recall browsing a thread with what folks had paid for their new 4runners in 2019 and thought I should have done better then $4500 off MSRP.
     
  14. Oct 12, 2021 at 3:34 AM
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  15. Oct 12, 2021 at 4:01 AM
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    Go to the Toyota website, and start building a 2022 SR5 premium. Then adjust the URL to reflect 2021 instead of 2022 and you'll see the pricing for 2021 models. 2021 SR5 Premium 2WD models started at $39,075, while 4WD models started at $40,950.
     
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  16. Oct 12, 2021 at 5:12 AM
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    There was a very small increase in MSRP between the 21s and 22s. I think it was under a 100 bucks, but don’t remember exactly.
     
  17. Oct 12, 2021 at 5:40 AM
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    If the chip and other raw material shortages continue through 2022, I wonder if that will force Toyota to continue the 5th Generation 4R through the 2023 model year ? Just speculating.
     
  18. Oct 12, 2021 at 5:59 AM
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    I read/heard that 2023 will be 5th gen.
     
  19. Oct 12, 2021 at 7:32 AM
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    Hendrick Toyota in Apex said they're not marking up above MSRP. I talked to Tom McClay there several times and he was one of the nicest and most professional sales guys I talked to in my search.
     
  20. Oct 16, 2021 at 11:05 AM
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    Thought I struck gold when I found this thread but didn’t see Ohio on the list or in any posts. If anyone has info on fair minded, honest dealers in or near southwest Ohio, I’d sure appreciate the info. BTW, AMD (The Car Care Nut on YouTube) just published a vid in which he says NEVER pay over MSRP. He further argues to remember which ones are up charging and to never do business with them. https://youtu.be/MDLv8Vz1CVw
     
  21. Oct 16, 2021 at 11:22 AM
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    I would agree 99% of the time paying over sticker is akin to literally burning cash.

    There's an article about a lady paying $6k over MSRP on a Kia Telluride. Ouch. The hit wouldn't be so bad on something like a ORP or Pro.

    There's a saying something like this "Buyers don’t make logical, rational buying decisions. They make emotional decisions and then justify those decisions by rationalizing them after the fact."

    In that vein - as far as TRD Pro's go, they seem to hold value really well. So, I could see justifying paying MSRP. Maybe even a little over if you really want one, even if it's not a "deal".

    That you can pretty much turn around and sell one for what you paid, or more, says something.

    They are sought after, and somewhat hard to find. Supply and demand. I don't think it's right what dealers are doing, but I understand.
     
  22. Oct 16, 2021 at 1:02 PM
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    I called every Toyota dealer in AZ looking for a LR Pro and asked two questions: are you charging over MSRP and are you keeping a list of buyers. About a quarter of the dealers were not charging over MSRP (some are only doing it on the Pro). For the ones not charging a markup I got on a list if they had one, the others I made sure to let them know I was ready to buy. Got a call last Friday that the person who reserved the LR Pro could not qualify for financing and we picked the vehicle up on Monday when it arrived. Got lucky. Wife LOVES it.

    The current environment and it being a Toyota, is the only reason I paid MSRP for a Pro. I was prepared to wait for as long as it took to not pay more. Dealers love desperate/impatient buyers. I kept a list of all the dealers charging a mark up and will not do business with them in the future.
     
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  23. Oct 16, 2021 at 1:06 PM
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    Congrats!

    Would be great if you could let us know the MSRP dealers. Only two I know of in AZ are Avondale and Precision.
     
  24. Oct 16, 2021 at 1:30 PM
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    I had a 21 LR Pro fall into my lap in a similar fashion. I happened to be the first to inquire about it when it was posted online. The original buyer found one elsewhere. Paid $2,000 above MSRP in May. I was fine with that. They could have sold it for $5,000 or more above MSRP within a couple of days. My self imposed ceiling was $3,000 above MSRP. I could probably sell it for $5,000 more than I paid for it today. An extra $2,000 was not a big deal on a $52,000 vehicle. Additionally, I am self employed so it is a tax write off - reducing it's cost to me by 40%. I too was adamant about not paying above MSRP, but supply and demand always rules! Same as our crazy real estate market across the country!
     
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  25. Oct 16, 2021 at 1:36 PM
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    I bought from Avondale and they were awesome.

    Additional AZ Dealers charging MSRP:
    • Sierra Vista (can be added to the list for $500 deposit) Pablo was great.
    • Desert Toyota
    A few other possibilities, I believe Surprise and Riverview were not, but would need to confirm. Big Two I don't recall if they were.

    Confirmed charging mark up for TRD Pro (this may change, and some were saying they only do it on certain models):
    • Tempe Toyota - $10K (TRD Pro only)
    • Larry H Miller (Peoria)
    • Camelback - $10K (TRD Pro only)
    • Right Toyota (Scottsdale) - $30K
    • Hatch Toyota (Show Low)
    • Earnhardt Toyota (Mesa) - $10K
    • Bell Toyota (Scottsdale) - $10K
     
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  26. Oct 16, 2021 at 1:39 PM
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    No judgement, lol! It is crazy to walk in there with no leverage at all. I hated it.

    I contemplated a bit over just to get it over with and possibly avoid headaches/repairs of the older car were are replacing.
     
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  27. Oct 16, 2021 at 2:07 PM
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    You hit the nail on the head - lack of leverage when buying a LR Pro. It would have required an extraordinary amount of effort and luck to find one at MSRP from March thru today. Additionally this dealership is located 25 miles from my house. Some people are searching the whole country to find one of these. I too just wanted to get it over with, the opportunity cost of continually searching was killing me as well! It all worked out in the end!
     
  28. Oct 16, 2021 at 2:31 PM
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    Just put a deposit down on a LR ORP. MSRP with no other bs fees. Wilde Toyota in Milwaukee. Very happy with the experience thus far.
     
  29. Oct 18, 2021 at 4:25 AM
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    Has anyone bought from KOCH33 in Easton, PA. They have great inventory and was hoping to see if anyone had any luck working a deal with them in the last 2 months or so.
     
  30. Oct 19, 2021 at 7:42 AM
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