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Would you use this instead of the $70 toyota fluid

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by Ramrod88, Mar 16, 2020.

  1. Mar 16, 2020 at 3:22 PM
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    Would this be ok or should I get the liquid gold

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    I use toyota for my transfer case and redline for front and rear differentials.
     
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  3. Mar 16, 2020 at 4:05 PM
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    Last change I did I used redline in front and rear and the overpriced toyota in the transfer. Just trying to cheap it down a little bit, that toyota 75w can’t really be that necessary
     
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    What if you took a small oil sample from the transfer case and sent it to Blackstone? They could analyze it and tell you if the oil was still good or if it needed a change.

    Could save you some coin. :notsure:
     
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    No debate it is overpriced. However, there are some additives that aftermarket products don't have. I just decided to be cautious. Plus, I change it every 30,000 miles, which is about three years of driving.
     
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    When I do mine, I’ll use royal purple syncrhomax. It’s rated same as Toyota fluid.
     
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    I will use the Toyota transfer case fluid because it has many additives .. my GM truck I use the GM trac II fluid in transfer case ...of my 2000 silverado.
    yes that Toyota transfer case fluid is very expensive but I do not want any repairs on it .. I plan on changing that transfer case fluid at 40K miles...fluid still looks good at 30K miles. when I do the change on it I will put in a 32OZ amount and if I need to add another small amount I will put mobil 75-90wt in it to get it to the proper level .. I think I might have to add 1-2 oz to get it at the top.. not gonna buy another $70 bottle..

    I HAVE THAT TOYOTA TRANSFER CASE OIL SPEC SHEET ..VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER FLUIDS ..
     
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    I was planning on using Ravenol. It's available on Amazon and available in the proper viscosity.

    If that stuff is the proper weight and specs, I wouldn't hesitate.
     
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    Synchromax is my choice, used it in my 3rd gen Tacoma, now in my 5th gen 4Runner. Not expensive and is a direct replacement for Toyota LF.
    http://www.royalpurple.com/wp-conte...le_Transmission_Lubricant_Cross_Reference.pdf
    Regular synthetic gear oil (Mobil 1 etc.) is not recommended because of high phosphate levels that may damage the soft metal (copper, brass) in the transfer case synchros. That being said if you talk with some service guys at Toyota dealerships they say the just use 90w gear oil they buy in bulk, I think I’ll pass on that one.
     
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    There has been long discussions on this topic on the other 4Runner forum, along with the Tundra and Tacoma forums (as they also require the same liquid gold in their transfer cases). Even taking it further to the Bobistheoilguy forum. From what I read is after going through these numerous threads, Toyotas OEM Transfer Gear Oil LF 75W #08885-81080 is the safest way to go. Some have posted that Ravenol 75W is the equivalent or the exact same oil as the Toyota LF 75W. Toyota dealerships have their service techs fill transfer cases with 75W-90. On a side note, it seems like the majority of people who use aftermarket oils in their transfer cases report no issues. Take it as you will and choose wisely.
     
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    OP, if I had to go aftermarket I would go Ravenol 75W or Royal Purple Synchromax and not that Valvoline.
     
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    well now it looks like im gonna go with the synchromax and use that valvoline as an undercoating
     
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    Just received this email from Toyota Corp. I called 5 local Toyota and 2 Lexus dealerships and all use 75w90 in transfer case. Most never heard of 75w fluid...

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    Thank you for this!

    It's also my experience that most Toyota dealers don't stock the Toyota 75W t-case fluid, and apparently some won't even special order it. I was already planning to use the same 75W-90 (Motul Gear 300) I'm using in the front and rear diffs, so this is nice confirmation. Why complicate things?
     
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    Exactly! No dealership locally stocks the fluid or even knows about it. I even talked to the technician and he said 75w90 will be fine.
     
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    Well, you certainly cleared up this long time mystery. Looks like it’s another attempt by Toyota to squeeze a little better gas mileage out of these big hogs, like specifying 0W-20 engine oil. Thanks.
     
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    I think you nailed it. It's interesting that they spec 0W-20 for US vehicles, but 5W-30 in Puerto Rico.

    It makes me wonder if I would be better off running 5W-30 as I intend to drive this thing into the ground.

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    yeah at least 0W-20 is pretty common in most stores like Walmart and such.

    but for 0W-16 that is required for some of Toyota’s 4cyl engines which is very tough to find at local stores. Most folks need to buy it at the Toyota parts dealer.

    I’ve also read on the Toyota Nation forums that 8th gen Camry owners use 0W-20 in their 4cyl engines (requires 0W-16) with no problems. They also believe Toyota requires it so the vehicle can have better MPGs.
     
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    I've used Ravenol 75w and am now using Redline MT-LV. The Ravenol seemed to engage a little quicker than the Redline but went with the Redline for the beefier additive package.
     
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    Yup! I’m thinking about running a 0w40 in both the 4runner and gx460
     
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    I also used redline mt-lv in the GX but going with a 75w90 in the 4runner and will be doing the same with the GX when it hits 100k
     
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    That's what I did for my latest oil change. QSUD 5W-30. No perceivable change in MPG.
    I think it sounds a little quieter too.
     
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    Pouring in 0w20 doesn’t make me feel good. It’s like water haha
     
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    They just emailed me on my concern for using GL5 over GL4 fluid.

    Toyota Corp recommends both 75w and 75w90

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    I have a decent stock of various 0W-20 oils on hand for both my 4R and wife's Subaru. I'm perfectly comfortable using this viscosity in both engines, but plan to run a factory spec 5W-30 in mine for one interval during the warmer months, just to see for myself. If it quiets the engine a bit without reducing fuel economy, I may stick with it. It rarely gets below freezing where I live.
     
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    Toyota states in the manual 5-30wt oil is correct in the Caribbean..temps are always above 50F...
    the reason is when the temps drop below 50F then the oil passageways will cause a wear problem. these engines when I drain my oil the oil drains 45 mins... on my GM old V8 engines it drains 25mins...
     
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    The owner's manual calls for oil that meets ILSAC GF-5. This spec has a wide range of viscosities, including 0W-20, 0W-30, 5W-20, 5W-30, and 10W-30.

    0W-20, 5W-20, and 5W-30 (and I assume 0W-30 even though it isn't shown on the graph) all have a similar operating temperature range which goes well below 0 degrees F. The graph also indicates you could use 10W-30 all the way down to 0 degrees, so I'm not concerned about running a 0W-20, 0W-30, 5W-20 or 5W-30 that meets the spec. As I said, it rarely drops below 32 degrees where I live. These engines don't seem to be too tough on oil.

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    We will be towing a camp trailer with both the 4runner and GX so a heavier oil would be better
     
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    well if your in texas driving on the hywy at 90MPH you can put in the 10-30wt synthetic . last week the temps drop suddenly and temps in texas are zero degrees F so we in the usa do have high and very low temps .. now in the Caribbean Mexico areas you can increase the viscosity..
    change you oil in the spring to increase the viscosity in a hot spot ..
     
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