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Will I have any issues with rubbing?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by bn65, May 19, 2020.

  1. May 19, 2020 at 7:58 PM
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    Hey everyone, I'm getting close to making a purchase. I've chosen wheels, tires, and a small lift kit and I wanted to get an idea if I will have any issues with rubbing and if the lift I've chosen is a quality one. I'll most likely do 2 inches in the front and 1.5 inches in the rear. Let me know if you need more information to better answer the question, I'm new to all of this.

    Here are the links:

    https://www.customwheeloffset.com/buy-wheel-offset/D67917908445/fuel-rebel-17x9-12?year=2016&make=Toyota&model=4Runner&drive=4WD&suspension=Suspension+Lift+2.5"&bolt_patterns=6x5.5,6x139.7

    https://www.customwheeloffset.com/b...sion=Leveling+Kit&bolt_patterns=6x5.5,6x139.7

    https://www.morris4x4center.com/sky...-with-rear-black-max-shocks-sj-t4330stbb.html
     
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  2. May 19, 2020 at 8:30 PM
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    Yeah, you'll most likely rub due to the -12 offset and 9" width of the wheels. The places you'll rub are either the front fender liner/flare, the mudflap, and/or the body mount. Not a big deal since all of those can be remedied.

    Tires look good.

    I'd recommend this lift over the one you have above. I think this is a better quality kit.

    Front:
    https://eibach.com/us/2000/E60-82-071-02-10-TOYOTA-4Runner-pro-truck-sport-shock

    Rear:
    https://eibach.com/us/2000/E60-82-008-02-01-TOYOTA-4Runner-pro-truck-sport-shock
    https://eibach.com/us/2000/E30-82-071-01-02-TOYOTA-4Runner-pro-lift-kit
     
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    Thanks for the reply. Most of the wheels I've been looking at are 9" wide. Is there a certain offset I could get that would prevent needing to trim anything? Another set of wheels I liked have a +2 offset. It seemed like the wheels I linked had the wheel hub closer to the "front" of the wheel. Maybe I'm confusing that for something other than offset.


    That lift kit looks good, so those 3 items would be all I need to purchase to get the desired lift height?
     
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  4. May 19, 2020 at 8:42 PM
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    I recommend calling @HeadStrong Off-Road and speaking with them. They’ll help you get what you’re trying to achieve suspension wise.
     
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  5. May 19, 2020 at 9:57 PM
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    With that small of a lift and -12mm, or evening any negative offset and 285’s you’ll most likely rub. I’d recommend going higher, or go smaller tire size and/or get ready to get a body mount chop and do some cutting in the wheel wells. I think if you go with a positive offset wheel or just 0, you’ll still rub but it’ll be minimal.
     
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  6. May 20, 2020 at 8:35 AM
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    Fitting 285's is a delicate balance between wheel sizing and alignment. Your best bet to not rub with 285's is to have both stock wheel specs (7 or 7.5" wheel width, an offset between +4 to +15, backspacing around 4.5"), and an alignment with a caster close to +3.5 degrees. Although this is your best chance not to rub, there are still no guarantees. You still might need to trim. So with that being said, you might as well just get the wheels you want, embrace the rub and do the necessary work to trim. It's not very hard. Alternatively, you could go with stock wheel specs, a proper alignment, and 275's. You can get away with those and it's a pretty safe bet you won't have to trim anything.

    The suspension items I posted will get you either a 0.8", 1.6", or a 2.75" lift in the front and a 1" lift in the back. I think the 1.6" in front and 1" in the back with 275's might be a good compromise for you. Just remember that those shocks I posted come in singles so you will need two of them. The coils come in pairs, so you only need one pair.
     
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  7. May 20, 2020 at 9:14 AM
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    So let's say I were to keep the same wheels (or wheels with a +2 offset but same width) but I instead switched to 275s, there would still be rubbing? It seems like the width/offset of the wheel has more of an impact on whether or not any rubbing is involved?
     
  8. May 20, 2020 at 11:16 AM
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    I can't tell you exactly if you'll rub with that combo. There are just so many variations out there, it's hard to know exactly where the line between rubbing and not rubbing is. +2 offset is a safer bet than a -12 offset though.

    To answer your second question, yes, as you push your tire out further with wheel width/offset/backspacing, you are more likely to rub. With stock wheel specs, your tire tucks into the wheel well on a turn and avoids the front fender liner and mudflap. When you push your tire further out, the outside edge of the tire has more opportunity to knick those spots. For example, you can get a 285 to fit a stock height 5th gen without rubbing if you use the stock wheel specs and get the alignment dead on. But if you put that same tire on a wheel with a -12 offset, you'll rub.
     
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