Toyota Pricing WOW!!

If the Earth was round, we would constantly be driving slightly downhill, and need nothing more than Little Tikes cars with simple handbrakes.

We can effectively blame a majority of our environmental predicaments on our world being a flat disc, and the unhealthy denialism that so many of you damn dirty apes keep circle jerking each other with.
Abandon the flock, refuse to be prey! Think for yourself, support the REAL AMERICA, the one that has slightly skewed edges!

 

^ LMAO !!! I love 'Merica and running the hell out of my gas guzzlin' 6 popper 4 runner pulling a camper trailer and enjoying charter membership to the flat earth society. Dim, Repuke, EV pro, EV con, everybody enjoy the long weekend and celebrate not having to also support Buckingham Palace. Thanks for the interesting read, I'm sure the story will continue...

 

The near term is to make EVs available to the folks they do work for. And then there's a proposal to go fully electric in 28 years for all new vehicles. When it comes to development of technology, 28 years is an eternity. And no one's taking away anyone's ICE vehicles in the long term, it's just a nudge from government to industry to start moving toward a transition to EVs. The engineering will follow, as usual.

Edit: We're living in the golden age of ICEs. Never before has so much power been so efficiently squeezed out of engines, while not putting out toxic emissions. I'm pretty excited about what the future holds for electrics. Based on what's out there now in it's relative infancy, I think it'll be pretty cool.

 

Respectfully, in the U.S. the people nudge the government, not the other way around.

 

What the government doesn't want you to know about "corn" ethanol?

It's really just a way to use up Nancy Reagan's leftover hooch, funded by taxpayers. Ethanol hybrids are the future, for at least another 70 years or so... depending on how strong the top shelf stuff is.

 

Amen from Florida

 

Nudge the government toward what? Sticking with what makes profits instead of what progresses society? Look at environmental regulations since 1970...fixing dead rivers, eliminating lead compounds in the air, doing away with landfills on the back-40. The environment has gotten exponentially better and industry has thrived at the same time.

Things have to keep moving forward to make life better for everyone. The governmental nudge for more powerful vehicles with instant torque and better reliability doesn't bother me, and is encouraging to think what we can achieve starting with 150 year old technology.

 

You think the government did all that because those elected by the people are just good, honest folks? Governments, or rather those serving in them, are only interested in two things. Power and money. That’s it. They don’t care about you, or me, or fixing dead rivers, or eliminating lead compounds in the air, or doing away with landfills in the back 40, or any other altruistic endeavor. Nope. They will do whatever it takes to maintain power and money. And if we the people aren’t very, very careful, that power and money will come from sources other than us. If the people insist on clean energy, and hold our elected officials accountable, it might happen. That is if it will result in them remaining in power, and thus money. If we allow other influences to provide the power and money we will get something other than the will of the people. Take a close look at those in power today. Or two years ago if you like. They couldn’t care less about us and our dreams.

 

Then you are too old to be using memes, sir.

 

This can’t be good

https://share.newsbreak.com/1d3jsbp4

 

I’m not sure what to make of this article. They talk about poor “quality”, but most of those complaints are about infotainment and connecting to CarPlay and Android Auto. Nothing about how critical systems work or how the cars actually perform.

 

I just read another article about software problems. Like you said. Lots are pretty minor, but why? Some of this tech has been around for a good amount of time.

I would probably just be annoyed.

 

Yes. As cars become more like computers they are experiencing typical software release issues. That is, to get the latest greatest product or software feature to market before the competition the bean counters essentially force the engineering/development/test/qualification teams to release software products before they are ready.
The auto buying public becomes the testers of new software, to their frustration. The company’s attitude is “we’ll fix it in the next release”

 

You know there are some roads going downhill you can roll a marble up?

 

The New River flows uphill.

 

Hybrids are the bridge to EV. That's the only way.

 

I think most of us want that extra torque but we don't want the extra $10k to $15k it's going to cost to get there without having the option to buy a cheaper straight gasser. It would be interesting to see if someone could run some potential numbers on the 6th gen 4Runner hybrid versus 5th gen total cost of ownership comparison for a year or two...

 

If I had that information to share at the top of the post hybrid might be winning the survey right now...

 

Not sure if lacking surveying equipment or even a basic level or just stupid.

Not sure if not understanding that a river flowing north doesn't mean it's flowing at an upward slope or just stupid.

 

...As it should be.

 

There are articles out there comparing car models in the ICE configuration vs the hybrid configuration. Here’s one for the Camry, and a quote.

“Money Under 30 points out that buying a hybrid car doesn’t necessarily mean immediate fuel savings. Assuming you drive about 15,000 miles annually, it might take over four years to recoup the money you spent to purchase the vehicle.

Still, hybrids are generally more reliable than their ICE counterparts, meaning less money spent on repairs. And though battery packs are expensive to replace, MU30 says these components can last around 180,000 miles before significant degradation.”

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/2022-toyota-camry-hybrid-worth-2000-ice-camry/

 

No Gam, my dad took me there on the way to Goshen Scout Camp. It flows up-hill!

 

And my dad works for Nintendo.

 

It’s an optical illusion obviously.

 

Do you want to experience true level- DO YOU?!

 

Dude, nobody needs to hear what you say when you go to the bathroom

 

You want to see the shivery?

 

Shrivelry, I messed up that joke.