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The beast has left the building...

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by canadian.bacon, Oct 21, 2022.

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Given you can afford it, would you trade your 4R for an EV of your choice?

  1. Yes

    15.2%
  2. No

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  3. Yes, once range and charging improve

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  1. Oct 25, 2022 at 9:49 AM
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    I don't know, and probably won't find out, as I expect to trade before then as this is my wife's every day vehicle, and I use it whenever I can to save on gas.

    Even if its in the wrong sub forum, no need to put others down based on their vehicle choice.

    from quick google search, it looks to be $5,000 for replacement.
     
  2. Oct 25, 2022 at 9:50 AM
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    No issue till someone started creating them, just saying.
     
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  3. Oct 25, 2022 at 9:53 AM
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    I just miss the old days where forums never steered off into the abyss.
     
  4. Oct 25, 2022 at 9:56 AM
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    Then move on, and stop trying to start crap
     
  5. Oct 25, 2022 at 9:56 AM
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    Of course you don't. You want the topic to be political, so you made it political.

    The only person complaining here is you.
     
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  6. Oct 25, 2022 at 9:57 AM
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    Your fault, Nano. You started it. And also you’re wrong. You’ve expressed your opinion as if it’s fact. Not only is it just an opinion, it’s ill informed. That it’s also blatantly political is, additionally, a violation of the forum rules. So basically you’re 0 for 4.
     
  7. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:00 AM
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    Good idea!
     
  8. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:00 AM
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    canadian.bacon [OP] H9 halogen is the best led bulb

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    I really hoped it would not turn into this. Bollocks.
     
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  9. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:01 AM
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    So you poke and prod me then want me to move on? Lol perhaps you shouldn't be replying to me if you don't want a response.
     
  10. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:02 AM
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    Well, that's like, just your opinion, bro. What have I said that is not a fact? Enlighten me.
     
  11. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:04 AM
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    This shows how much you're paying attention.. Here's what I actually said:

    Fact or not, it's political. Maybe check out the forum code of conduct sometime. Politics are forbidden.
     
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  12. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:07 AM
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    Well, hopefully we can keep this thread going. I believe it's possible to get a member banned from a specific thread. Could be worth it.

    Although, It looks like someone is already getting a vacation from this forum.
     
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  13. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:07 AM
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    I was looking at some of the users stats. @Thatbassguy dude, almost 9000 posts LOL, HOW? And your thread was awesome too.
    He's got like 75 posts, he's new and belligerent, where everyone else is well above 1000 posts, so seasoned forum members.

    Not gonna say who, but someone here reminds me of the kid on the left:

     
  14. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:11 AM
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    I guess I'm just a chatty Kathy. :rofl:

    I help organize a lot of outings, camping trips, trail days, Biergarten meetups, and parking lot parties in Wisconsin. So, I post a lot in the event threads.
     
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  16. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:18 AM
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    canadian.bacon [OP] H9 halogen is the best led bulb

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    @Thatbassguy Used to do a lot of fishing in Dyckesville,WI....that whitefish is awesome out there
     
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  17. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:19 AM
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    I appreciate the thread CB! My dad and nephew (22 years old) both have Tesla's, Model Y. They both love them. Similar to your experience with your 4R, I rarely use 4WD (maybe 3 times a year in the past three years), I love the space and utility of it, perhaps a Highlander would have been better for me? I'm fortunate enough to have been working from home since March 2020, so the gas thing with the 4R isn't too bad. Anyhow, I can see myself entertaining a Hybrid vehicle down the line.

    Please keep us updated as time goes on.
     
  18. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:24 AM
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    Nice! That's actually an area I haven't really visited. A bunch of us were up in Bayfield 2 weeks ago, and we had whitefish livers at a place called Greunke's. I highly recommend it if you ever find yourself up that way!
     
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    I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking about the 2.5 non turbo hybrid Highlander. It is very hard to get out of the don't care driving habit of 4Runner even on city driving not slowing down for speed bumps, crossing roads with dips, entering drive ways without slowing down, etc.. Since I don't clean in front of my garage in winter time and hybrid Highlander not having a good AWD system it would be little tough here for me as well (I'm an island boy, so I just clean the walk way and run in to the house). If I go hybrid Highlander route I don't think it would be easy for me to sell the wheels and buy 18in wheels from lower trims. So gave up that plan. Just high level point from me, hope people don't find them thinking I hate that vehicle.


    Edit -
    I also thought about Toyota Venza since its little better than Highlander even though its smaller. But just about same ground clearance.


    Poll -
    I picked no mostly because of me & my wifes don't care driving style which we would most likely damage a Tesla. But then I thought about other's something like R1s (the suv version) or the Hummer EV suv version would be good for our driving style. I'm sure EV range would improve very soon. Now I'm thinking my answer would be not strictly "No" it would be "Maybe".
     
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  20. Oct 25, 2022 at 10:33 AM
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    Might also be cool to add a “maybe” to the current poll. Or a “Yes, once range and charging improve”.

    I for one can’t really say “yes” or “no” to the current question. But I could answer one of these other questions.

    Just a thought.
     
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  24. Oct 25, 2022 at 11:23 AM
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    One-at-this-price stripper. Bought new 32yrs ago, a $13K leftover. Added Detroit TruTrac and 1”rear spring spacer. Factory AC kit and roof rack bought at dealer cost at time of purchase, still blows ice cold 32yrs later. 2022 AG ORP all stock.
    They are slotted for a COMPLETELY different segment of use. You bought the 4R by mistake and it was not suited for your use.
     
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  25. Oct 25, 2022 at 11:36 AM
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    I would buy a EV once the battery performance is improved….but in no way would I trade a 4R.
     
  26. Oct 25, 2022 at 11:57 AM
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    I would not say by mistake. The very initial must have was to be reliable. I wanted something that can go on some trails, can tow a small popup camper, something I can sleep in.
    After my 2019 Ram 1500 turned out to be a total turd, I was done with domestics. We have a '14 Corolla that still is running strong, so we went that route.
    I was keen on a Tundra, but the 13mpg in town killed it right away. Then I looked at the Taco, the V6 3.5 was decent and cheaper than the 4R. The woman really wanted the 4R, so we went with that in the end, thinking we will keep it for many years to come. Gas was decent at that time and before that, around 4$/gal or even less - since there will be questions about this.

    The 4R showed me what I was not, more than what I am. I am not a true, dedicated off-road individual, and there is no shame in that. At least not with my new DD. I did take it off-road, more off-road than many of the well-done-to-the-gills 4Rs on this forum (some 1200 miles north from where i am, roughly Toronto to Miami, but north of Toronto). It did absolutely all I threw at the beast and even more. It never hesitated one bit in dirt, water, gravel, heavy inclines and all. But i felt bad when the battle scars didn't wash away once we were home. It is not a cheap car, feels nasty ruining such a nice baby. Maybe others dont care, sure, you do you, i'll do me. I admitted an ATV is more fun for me, for how much I go places like this.
    We slept in it weekend after weekend, and it was excellent. We loved it. We only got the trailer cause we no longer fit in it once we got the 2nd dog, and the woman has some back pain.
    It pulled the popup trailer without a sweat, I would forget at times it was even back there. Slightly longer brake distance, no sway unless super windy. A bit more suspension play going over bumps and all, all expected and normal behavior.
    Then gas went up and then higher and higher. From 60 cents/liter in 2020 to $2.14/liter (3.78l to the gallon), things started to cost more and more. When we put the money together in March, we were around $8/gal and one day I said f$#ck it and walked into the new sales center and put an order on. We were looking at the 4R paid in full already and close to $40.000 in gas in the next 6 years. I consider that to be a waste.
    So I would not say mistake, I used it for what it was built, but not to the extent other use it. Like them lifted trucks or done Jeeps that never see more than a patch of grass at the picnic.
    Now, is Tesla going to work for us? We don't know, never had one before. Will this turn out to be a mistake for our lifestyle? We will see by next summer, after a grueling winter. We do lots of road trips, we go camping often, including in the winter. We are pretty outdoorsy and we could cover the extra cost of the EV via the savings in gas.
    We do miss the back space in the 4Runner, it is not as wide and not as tall, the larger dog fits in, but not too much space to spare on the top. We miss the ride height and the feeling of "tank".

    I slow down for driveways and potholes now, something I didn't do before. This winter is announced to be something we haven't had in decades, cold and snow and they don't really clean same day around my area.
    Last winter on our way to Costco. Will Tesla do this? Hell no, this is 4Runner only territory:

     
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  27. Oct 25, 2022 at 12:03 PM
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    yay, i made it, i'm a big boy now, 1000 posts.

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  28. Oct 25, 2022 at 12:08 PM
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    Food for thought…..would you buy a 10yr old EV? My research shows a minimum of $7k for the standard battery and $11k for the LR not including labor for the Model 3.
    BTW, I am not putting down anyone for their choice. Just applying logic to the comparison of EV to a 4R. There is more to it than just mileage, like resale value.
     
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  29. Oct 25, 2022 at 12:33 PM
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    Most probably not. By the same account, I haven't purchased a second hand car since 2006. Money is tight and I must drive to work and get back on my feet ? Well, a man's gotta do what man's gotta do, right?
    I purchased a brand new 4R too.
    There is no real market as of today for a 10 years old EV, full EV. In the next 3-5 years, there will be a lot more examples. We will both find out then, LOL
     
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