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Spidertrax Or Not?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by JerseyDevil5, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. Aug 10, 2017 at 4:28 AM
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    JerseyDevil5

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    Hi Everyone,
    I have a 2010 SR5 and will be installing the 3" Toytec Coil Lift on my Bilstein 5100's. I will also be adding the 1" Toytec Body Lift. I am currently running 17x8 (4.5 Backspace, 0 offset) ProComp wheels with 275/70 BFG KO2's, 2.5" Bilstein setting, 1.5" rear spacer and SPC UCA's. I am trying to decide on ordering the Spidertrax 1.25" wheel spacers. I think they would really help push the wheels out flush with the fender, however, I do not want to do a body mount chop. Any of your thoughts, comments or experiences with this setup before I spend the $200 on them would be great!
    Thank you in advance!
     
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  2. Aug 10, 2017 at 6:01 AM
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    What ProComp's are you running? I just got a set of ProComp 97s (steelies) and they don't clear the front brake calipers. I thought about doing wheel spacers, however this was going to be a dedicated off road wheel/tire set, and since it will be abused pretty hard I'm just going to get a different set of wheels with the right offset. Less to go wrong. Spacers are pretty solid with todays technology, but it comes down to what you plan to do with your vehicle. Street driving should be fine. But spacers do introduce a weak point to your vehicle, and hard driving might stress it too much.
     
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  3. Aug 10, 2017 at 8:00 AM
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    I have the ProComp 7005's. I would love to go off-road. Growing up in South Jersey, my friends and I would spend every available minute off-road. Now that I live in Nebraska, I have yet to find a place to go. It sounds crazy I can find a ton of places in Jersey, but none in Nebraska! My wife and I went to Colorado Springs a couple years ago and I thought here's my chance to take my 4Runner off-road. We drove on the paved road up Pikes Peak and my wife drove me nuts because she was scared we would roll down the side of the mountain. The thought did cross my mind that maybe I should drive off the side to put me out of my misery!! Sorry for the novel, but my driving will unfortunately on the road for the time being. I'm lean towards the spacers, but I'll see if others have opinions on the possible rub. Thanks for your response!

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    I've always bee weary of spacers, in my mind they are just another fail point. But that's just me. You will most likely run into more rubbing if you put them on.
     
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    I believe the factory backspace is around 3.75 - 4.0, so you're going to push your wheels out 1/2" - 3/4" without the spacers. Personally, I ran 1.25" spacers for a short while and didn't like how they threw all kinds of stuff on the side of my truck. I think the backspacing of your rims alone will be enough to flush up the wheels.

    Also, what size tires do you plan to run? a 3" lift + a 1" body lift is a lot more than most people do to run 33's, and that would likely run 35's. The downside is that due to wheel backspacing and width (315mm width of tire vs 265 of OEM), your total tire width would be about 2" wider, so 1" each way. I'm thinking the ProComp rims backspacing should prevent the tire from rubbing the UCA, but it will almost assuredly rub the fender liners.

    If you do a 33" i expect mild rubbing at full wheel lock.
    If you do a 35" tire I expect a cab mount chop.

    A 3" lift + 1" body lift with 32" or 33"s might look kinda small.
     
  6. Aug 10, 2017 at 9:56 AM
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    Plenty of people have run mild spacers without issue. Properly torque them and use lock tite as directed and you'll be fine...
     
  7. Aug 10, 2017 at 10:46 AM
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    I actually didn't think things out the best. In April, I installed the Bilstein 5100's at 2.5" and a 1.5" Daystar spacer in the back. Having been a mechanic for many years, I wanted to make sure that I would have no issues with my alignment so I put on the SPC UCA's. I planned on this being my finished setup, so I purchased the 275/70/17 BFG KO2's, not wanting to possibly rub too much with the 285/70/17's. Well after becoming addicted to reading these forums, I wanted more and more. Working on my 4Runner in my garage is my heaven! I ordered the Toytec 3" lift kit and the 1" Body lift kit. I only have about 3k on my tires, so I can't justify buying the 285's after the lift. I was thinking the wheel spacers may help compensate for the smaller 275's. I wonder if the tires will look too small with 4" of total lift, even with the wheel spacers. Maybe I should just do the 3" lift and return the 1" body lift. I would love to run the 285's, but just spent $800 on the 275's and should probably wear them out first before going to the 285's. This picture is how she stands now with the 2.5"/1.5", 17x8 wheels and 275/70/17.

    Again, Thanks for everyone's input. I appreciate it!

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    If anyone is interested, I decided against wheel spacers and increased my BFG KO2's to the 285/70R17 from the 275's. They rub a little on full lock, but I'm hoping the added 1/2 of lift I get after putting on the Toytec 3" lift on Sunday changes that. If not, I can easily do the fender liner mod. After I see how the finished product looks, I may install the 1" body lift or simply return it.
     
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    I'd argue that you did. You made a wise choice is holding off a bit and seeing how things shake out. It's easy to have big dreams and buy lots of things only to realize it changed the ride so greatly you don't enjoy driving it any longer. Even if you return parts or lose a little reselling something, slow and steady improvement vs massive change has paid off the best for my trucks.

    Here's the same truck AND trailer 1 year ago vs yesterday. The differences are all somewhat subtle on the 4runner (less so on the trailer...I've been working on it a LOT), but they are all there. Better skids, sliders, 2" lift, bigger and more aggressive tires, front bumper. It's insane what we have done with this truck in a year. 20,000 miles....4,000 of them pulling that triailer. Mountains, deserts, beaches, interstates, dirt roads, off road parks. We don't baby it, those sliders and skids are used. This truck just eats it all up.

    My wife told me, "I've never had a vehicle that after a year of ownership look forward to driving every day. If this vehicle were wrecked, I would just go buy exactly this again."

    I agree.

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  10. Aug 15, 2017 at 11:45 AM
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    That looks great and so clean considering all of your trips! I have had my 4Runner for about 4.5 years and have absolutely loved it. A few months ago, I was considering trading it in for a new 4Runner. But, then I thought why start over with payments and all that when I have exactly what I would buy just like you and your wife. So, I decided to keep it and make it my own with mods and everything. It has 86k on it, but has absolutely nothing wrong with it. I love it more and more after each new mod or each time I get into it. The neighborhoods think I'm crazy because I am always in my garage working on it or washing and waxing it. I am very pleased with how it has turned out. But, it will never be finished...............
     
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  11. Aug 15, 2017 at 2:32 PM
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    So true. And it's still pretty clean, i just put a pretty long scratch down the side you can't easily see from about 5 feet away with a tree branch while offroading, but it made for a good story :) It's a reminder to keep my balance...

    And really, a 2010 vs a 2017 there's not much different, so yea, skip the payments, mod the vehicle. I have 20k miles on our 4Runner, and when it's at 150k I'll still be towing and offroading. This frame, engine, and transmission are proven and reliable on these trucks. 86k is in the prime of it's life, I offroad with guys with 230k on the clock and we work em hard.
     

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