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Shock’ing Discovery

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Slopemaster, Jul 2, 2022.

  1. Jul 28, 2022 at 8:06 AM
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    Slopemaster

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    Yes, I like the tint but I have to be cautious when turning onto streets at night, because many people in my area drive at night with no headlights. Sometimes at intersections with no street light, I have to roll my window down to make sure there is no oncoming traffic. :(

    As far as skids, I am just going to stick with the factory skids. I off roaded my 97’ Tacoma for years with only factory skids and never had a problem. I don’t rock crawl.

    I mentioned on an earlier post that I was considering sliders, but at this point it looks like my nerf bars will work as is. I thought they were going to hang lower. Plus I really can’t justify spending a $1000 and adding a hundred pounds to the vehicle.
     
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  2. Jul 28, 2022 at 8:22 AM
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    Dobinson IMS Warn Bumper CaliRaised Sliders 265/70 K02s
    Makes perfect sense. The 4runner was designed around 265s. If you bought it with 285s, the change probably feels like a revelation lol.

    Although, I will note that when I changed to my dobinsons IMS (2.5-1.5 lift) on 265 KO2s, it did not negatively affect driveability or mpg. To the contrary, I noticed improved initial acceleration feel, since the tighter shocks didnt compress much when accelerating from stops. So the throttle response is much better, which helps with transmission shifts because it’s easier to feather the throttle around anticipated shift points.

    The steering actually became lighter and more neutral as well, but that was because I lost some caster (stock UCAs). Some might think it feels too light and not enough “return to center”, but I actually prefer it this way.
     
  3. Jul 28, 2022 at 11:18 AM
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    I'm having the same debate in my head over sliders. I wouldn't spend the coin on them though. So either I make them or, oem rock rails. I know people say they are weak(which they are).
     
  4. Jul 28, 2022 at 11:06 PM
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    3in Ironman 4x4 nitro stage 2 suspension lift 285s

    Which Ironman lift did you get and how do you like it? I just ordered one.
     
  5. Jul 29, 2022 at 2:37 AM
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    - GOBI roof rack and ladder - Westcott Design Rock sliders - M.O.R.E. Underbody Skid plates - Dual ARB air compressor & ARB single compressor - LED interior lighting - Ironman 2.0 meter awning and enclosure - Ironman winch with factor55 hook - Ironman foam cell pro suspension - Ironman recovery snatch rope - Ironman recovery traction boards - lilbscustomfab Hybrid Front Bumper - lilbscustomfab BMC - RRW RR7-H Hybrid Beadlock wheels - Nitto Trail Grapplers 285/75/17 M/T - 4.88 gears - ARB front air locker - ARB rear air locker - Hi-lift jack & mount - Sony aftermarket speakers - LASFIT External LED Light Conversion - Center console organizer - Glovebox organizer - ICS phone Mount holder - C4 rear bumper with dual swing arms - C4 gas skid plate - C4 rear diff skid plates
    I have the stage 3 foam cell pro kit. I like it a lot. I got the stiffest springs they sell. I am not as high as I had hoped but with all the extra weight I have added I believe that has brought it down a bit. Overall ride quality is great and they seem to hold up a lot better than stock (non fox suspension). It was like night and day comparing those two.
     
  6. Jul 29, 2022 at 6:56 PM
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    I’ve been driving the new setup for several days now and liking it more every day.

    After driving on several different roads I believe the alignment is fine. The beeping I was experiencing when I shifted from park to reverse has gone away. No clue what was causing it, but it only did it the first couple of days.

    I suspect that the 265’s are a little more sensitive to the road surface than the 285’s were. Maybe some of you can confirm that.

    The car drives and rides so much better now. I’m glad that I went back to the 265’s.

    It’s a little early, but it does appear that my mileage is improving.
     
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  7. Jul 29, 2022 at 7:05 PM
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    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

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    Sometimes it takes doing something, then undoing it to realize what you really want. The lure of a lifted 4Runner with 33" tires can be quite enticing, when the vehicle is so capable stock.

    I've thought about a 'better' lift from time to time, but realize down deep, I'm totally satisfied with about a 1" front lift, and don't need any more lift, bigger tires, or any of the issues that might rear their ugly heads.

    I'm glad you ended up where you wanted to be. Somewhat poorer, but wiser, I'd say.
     
  8. Jul 29, 2022 at 7:21 PM
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    Thank you!

    We all have certain preferences and needs, there is no one right answer. True, it cost me some extra $$, but now I know what works for me.
     
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  9. Jul 29, 2022 at 8:43 PM
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    3in Ironman 4x4 nitro stage 2 suspension lift 285s
    Ah I see that now, I wonder why they suggested the nitro one when I told them what car I had and what I wanted it for then. I’m really worried it’s not going to be worth it. I have heard it’s not a good lift, doesn’t ride well, sits higher than post to.



     
  10. Jul 30, 2022 at 4:15 AM
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    Well I tried warning you before I believe you purchased. I don’t believe they are horrible but they are known more for their FCP. Don’t go regretting before you get it.
    https://www.4runners.com/threads/shock’ing-discovery.26659/page-7#post-370501
     
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  11. Jul 30, 2022 at 8:19 AM
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    I can say Ironman has the worst customer service I've seen. You can't cancel an order even if you contact customer service within an hour of ordering. They will still ship you the stuff you don't want and customer has to eat the restocking fees and shipping when returning.

    Customer service also don't know or pretend that they don't know what they are selling. When I ask if they have 1.5in rear spring for 4runner how can you believe customer service don't know that they have 1.5in opinion?

    I would not recommend Ironman for their customer service. Imagine if this is the way they treat in purchasing process if you need help in warranty issues??
     
  12. Jul 30, 2022 at 8:53 AM
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    Wow I had quite the opposite experience. I had a warranty issue and got it replaced rather quickly with no expense out of my pocket. Sorry that was your experience. I bought the 12.5k pound winch, stage 3 foam cell pro lift, traction boards, and recovery gear for around $2500 and I am SUPER happy with my purchase.
     
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  13. Jul 30, 2022 at 1:16 PM
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    3in Ironman 4x4 nitro stage 2 suspension lift 285s
    I may have misread it then, I took it as a recommendation of the company, contacted them and told them what I wanted out of a lift and what it was for that’s what they said would be best but knowing their customer service isn’t great an may not be trained may be why I was led that way I guess blind leading the blind I suppose
     
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  14. Jul 30, 2022 at 2:46 PM
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    I apologize for any clarity that was not conveyed. I thought the first and second sentence pretty much summed up my opinion on Ironmans Nitro suspension

    (I can’t recommend their (Ironmans) nitro suspension. I recommend other brands for nitro suspension.)

    When I decided on getting a new suspension and spend the money, I was going to get the best they had to offer (since it was in my budget). I think they have excellent customer service but I don’t trust just anyone to make recommendations for me. If I make a choice, I take responsibility for the choices I made. So I find it best to make sure I understand every element before proceeding. That way if I don’t like it, then it was all on me. You put your trust in someone who makes customer service support wages (not an engineer). So I am not surprised they recommended the Nitro system.

    Now that you ordered the system I am interested in hearing what your experience with the Nitro system is.
     
  15. Jul 30, 2022 at 3:28 PM
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    There's no ironman reps on this forum?

    I know I'm gonna eat shit for this.... but what makes the ironman lifts/parts special? Other then the green paint. Seems overpriced, for crazy high spring rates and not many coil options(atleast compared to dobinson)
     
  16. Jul 30, 2022 at 6:37 PM
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    I completely concur. That ship has sailed now, just trying to decide to take a chance and put it on or eat the money and send it back for what I can. I’ll post if it’s put on, I appreciate the input.



     
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  17. Jul 30, 2022 at 7:36 PM
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    It’s still early but this picture shows my MPG today after some city driving. I never saw numbers like this in my four years of ownership.

    With the lift and 285’s I was averaging 17-18.

    0F89E788-8726-4622-8BFF-EAD29BB90288.jpg
     
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  18. Jul 30, 2022 at 9:48 PM
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    Wow, that’s great! I don’t get that stock!



     
  19. Aug 1, 2022 at 7:56 PM
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    I was curious so I weighed the removed Readylift SST spacer lift kit.

    18.6 lbs. that’s quite a bit of weight.

    EE2CC372-4204-42AD-9806-9A47408C7F29.jpg
     
  20. Aug 1, 2022 at 8:14 PM
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    Ironman FCP lift + 285s + pregnant wife + careful dad driving slow (even with full time 4wd) =

    20220730_233859.jpg
    :p
     
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  21. Aug 2, 2022 at 3:08 PM
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    ^^^ haha, its amazing how having a newborn in the back seat increases mpg. With the 285s i average 19mpg
     
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  22. Aug 4, 2022 at 4:41 PM
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    Went back today and had the alignment rechecked. It just didn’t feel right. Turns out that the toe was out of spec. It’s driving much better now.

    D06BAA39-7CA8-4494-B585-425C831B15C2.jpg
     
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