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RCI Transfer Case Crossmember for Skid Plate Problem?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by Weekend4Runner, May 3, 2021.

  1. May 3, 2021 at 11:41 AM
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    Weekend4Runner

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    Hi Everyone,

    I recently purchased the RCI full skid plate set.

    I was getting a head start in installing the cross member for the transfer case plate. I noticed there is a 1/4 gap between the cross member and the frame on the passenger side. The driver side sits flush. Attached 2 pictures of the drive and passenger side.

    Anyone experience this?

    Seems like a defect. Currently awaiting RCI's response.



    Driver Side.jpg Passenger.jpg
     
  2. May 3, 2021 at 11:59 AM
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  3. May 3, 2021 at 1:06 PM
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    Thanks, I'm hoping they can make it right without having to go through the process of getting this to fit correctly. Was hoping for quality work being made in USA. Ordered on 3/16 and arrived on 4/27, so was a good amount of waiting to get this.

    Just needed 2nd opinions as to how bad this gap is. I was thinking of adding a shim.

    Hopefully they will respond within 24 hours.
     
  4. May 3, 2021 at 4:34 PM
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    Didn’t have this gap when I installed my skids on my 2014 several years ago. Nor did I have it when I moved the skids to my 2021.
     
  5. May 3, 2021 at 5:31 PM
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    I reaally hope they dont say your 4runner frame rails are 1/2 inch wider than everybody else's 4runners. I say that partly joking, because I can kinda see that as an easy excuse.
     
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    Or maybe they will not be able to "replicate the issue"..................sorry could not resist as that is typical dealer response
     
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    I did not have this issue when I installed mine.
     
  8. May 4, 2021 at 7:57 AM
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    First off, about RCI. I waited 7 weeks after my initial order to receive it, and they sent two transfer case plates instead of the whole setup/package I ordered.
    While waiting on a lead time, I called and emailed 6 times without a response. Granted, this was last May and they were down for COVID, but at least an email response would be nice.
    They finally sent me the proper replacement plate without issue, after another 3 weeks of waiting.

    No gaps like yours, everything fit properly.
     
  9. May 4, 2021 at 8:28 AM
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    If you care to know, just ask.
    I don’t recall mine having a gap either, but I’ll get under it tonight and check, if I can remember.
     
  10. May 4, 2021 at 3:29 PM
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    Thanks everyone for your experiences. I sent another email without pictures in case the pictures caused the email to go to their Spam box. Hopefully they can respond within 3 days.

    I really hate to have to build a shim for it.

    If they ever reply or get back to me with a proper fitting crossbar, will update.

    After purchasing Molle Panels with shelf from Rago Fabrication, i was hoping RCI would be just as good for skid plates if not better.
     
  11. May 4, 2021 at 3:49 PM
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    Same issue here with that crossmember going onto a 2018 two years ago. I’m happy with the skids. I have the tools, so I reworked the crossmember into something that fit and fastened much better. I never did contact RCI. Strange how some seem to fit others not.
     
  12. May 4, 2021 at 3:57 PM
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    Just got a reply back and this is what they wrote word for word "You may just need to torque down on the crossmember a little bit to close the gap as much as possible. These crossmembers are built in a vice like jig and they are all identical. This may just be a frame variation from Toyota that is slightly off spec."

    I'm thinking tightening that bolt any further will damage the threads to attempt to close a 1/4" gap or even remotely close to it.

    Best I can do is to install a shim between the frame and crossmember with an aluminum plate/sheet.
     
  13. May 5, 2021 at 3:20 AM
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    Yes, mine RCI had the gap. I ended up adding a piece of aluminum between the frame and the crossmember. I wasn’t going to wait again for them to send a new crossmember. If you don’t add something, the skid plate will not sit flush to the bottom and the bolt will not be be tight to the frame.
     
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    Sometimes quick fixes don't always work
    That area is still a weak point in the armor
    I'm not dogging ya man just looking out
    You're better off taking it to a weld shop if you don't weld yourself and getting fixed
    Look into getting a refund or at least a partial refund for the shotty work
    Not saying your fix won't work but I (just me) wouldn't trust that area if it came down on a rock or a high curb at the mall
     
  16. May 5, 2021 at 10:59 AM
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    Hopefully this thread will help future buyers make the correct decision about buying the transfer case skid plate from RCI. Maybe the dimensions changed somewhere in the later years of the 5th gen or RCI's "vice like jig" is out of spec.

    With RCI's response, looks like they don't care.
     
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    Called it!!! That is the same response I got from a roof crossbar manufacturer when I told them the crossbar I received touches the roof. Basically, it’s toyotas manufacturing variation that is the problem....hmmm maybe toyota doesnt have “vice-like jigs” in their multi- billion dollar factory.

    But let’s assume toyota has huge dimensional variation that makes it impossible to correctly make aftermarket products like skids and roof crossbars. Then these aftermarket vendors and us customers both have a problem. We simply cannot assume any of the expensive stuff being sold to us will fit, or be fit for purpose.

    If rci or anybody else cared they would design their products in such a way that assume there will be a large variation (oblong bolt holes, shim sets that dont weaken the part, tolerances that are more forgiving etc).

    I like the RCI skid rails, and they are my shortlist.. has anyone heard any fitment problems with those?
     
  18. May 5, 2021 at 2:20 PM
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    No experience with RCI skid rails.

    Just thinking about it, if it's true from RCI's perspective that its a Toyota issue. Then every other part would probably/must have to accommodate the extra 1/4" gap in between the body frame.
     
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    Yes, interesting observation. What are the chances that, with so much toyota variation, the only thing that would not fit is the that part. You would think that bolt hole alignment would be a problem on everything else too. Did they give you a measurement spec for the part so that you can measure it yourself to see if it is out of spec?

    I guess as long as they give you a full refund, that is all you can ask for. I wouldn't hold your breath for partial credit if you have to "make it fit".

    I was lucky I got a full refund for my crossbars, but it's disapointing having to start over on a search for a part. In my case, I did suggest to the manufacturer to disclaimer their parts by stating that they may not fit on all 4runners, but they thought I was being a little dramatic by saying that. I actually think that's just being honest, and would result in less frustration. If I knew my parts may not exactly fit going into the purchase, I'm going to complain less or maybe not at all if I have to redo something (by cutting, grinding, or adding/welding on additional material.
     
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    I installed mine about a week ago. It wasn't "perfectly" flush either but its absolutely rock solid, so I'm not worried about it going anywhere.
     

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