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Premium quality KDSS compatible lift kit

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Yotaholic, Sep 17, 2023.

  1. Sep 19, 2023 at 2:51 PM
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    That dealer quote was a deep pocket quote.
    Spend $3000 on a good set and DIY
     
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  3. Sep 19, 2023 at 3:10 PM
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    Thank god. You could have had a decent actual full lift for that!
     
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  4. Sep 19, 2023 at 3:12 PM
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    Recommend something
     
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  5. Sep 19, 2023 at 3:17 PM
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    @Yotaholic so you're talking about a preload collar lift kit you were interested in right?
    Hopefully I can help and give you a little bit of information to compare pricing.
    First go to a decent off road shop not a stealership.
    Second, I never recommend spacer lifts and any of your 4 corners, especially the front.
    Try to do a suspension lift, upgrade the springs and or shocks, and upgrade UCA's if going up 3".
    My pricing is Canadian, in 2021, but for $3K USD and even a little bit of YouTube and sweat-equity you could prolly avoid spacers all together.

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  7. Sep 19, 2023 at 4:36 PM
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    Dobinson. Options for different budgets, and everyone seems to love them. Also, we have an expert/dealer who frequents this site.

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    https://www.4runners.com/threads/dobinsons-5th-gen-4runner-suspension-options.13289/

    Or, Eibach. This seems to be the best entry/mid grade option. Similar in cost to a Bilstein 6112 setup, but people seem more satisfied with the Eibachs.
     
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  8. Sep 19, 2023 at 4:40 PM
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    Agree with dobinsons - but I'm biased because that's what I have. I also spent tons of time researching the forums. That was my final answer
     
  9. Sep 19, 2023 at 4:55 PM
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    Crikey Mike! Legend
     
  10. Sep 19, 2023 at 5:02 PM
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    Ironman Foam Cell Pro, MESO stuff, other things I can’t remember
    I don’t know much but a few things about Ironman. I’ve got the Foam Cell Pros on my Tacoma and have been happy with them. I chose them over Billies, fox and saving for kings. One major point was they are “maintenance free,” unlike Fox and King that need to be rebuilt ever so often. The Ironmans also dont have nitrogen in them so even if they did need to be rebuilt, it’s a DIY type of thing.


    My only dislike with IM is their marketing practices, they are always on sale and it can give the appearance of being cheap. I don’t think my kit is cheap. Stiff yes, cheap no.
     
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  12. Sep 19, 2023 at 6:18 PM
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    Called multiple shops, everybody says 8 hours. At the minimum they charge is $175/hour.
     
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    8 hours for spacers or full suspension change?

    Swapping my front struts (pre-assembled), UCA's, rear shocks and coils, and mounting 5 new tires (bought a matching spare) only took my shop a day - which I assume was 8 hours
     
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    Well, the stealership said 8 hours for that spacer, off-road shops say 8 hours for the full kit
     
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    Full kit should take no more than 4 hours if they know what they are doing.
     
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    They know exactly what they're doing, they are making more money.
     
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    Are you in it just for looks? Go cheap level kit and get a 4x4 shop to do it.

    Any other use, involving off road, the Dobinsons etc. good budget options. You’ll be touching all four corners.

    As noted, don’t go to a dealership. Learn to wrench on it yourself, the money you save can offset buying the tools you’ll need.

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    True. But, some of them will still bill you for 8.

    Yup.
     
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    ^^^^^ This. If you just want it to look cool, at the walmart parking lot, in your driveway for pics,... then spacers/low budget are totally fine. Do that. Itll drive to mcdonalds just fine.

    If your gonna beat on the thing, then get shit that actually does something. This nova/mike guy gets it.
     
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    Eibach would probably be the most cost effective other than Bilstein's. Are you a DIY person? That would save a lot of labor.
     
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    Hey, yotaholic, my recommendation would be to give @Crikeymike a call.

    He set us up with Dobinson’s springs, shock’s,Treaty Oak KDSS spacers, and Dobinson’s Upper control arms for about a 2.5-2.75” lift. Fits our 33’s (285/70’s) perfectly w/ no rubbing offroad.

    We’ve beat the living sh!t out of our setup running a heavy load-out for the last 15k miles. Amazing articulation offroad in the slow stuff, very good damping doing some Anza-Borrego desert corrugations at about 30-40mph, comfy on the highway doing 80mph.
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    Hey thanks!
     
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    Is this the kit you have?

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    Yo I just started reading this thread: sensors reprogrammed? Gtfoh
     
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    So-Cal
    Vehicle:
    2019 4runner - TRD Off-Road
    Armored, Dobinson's lift, 33's, MC TacoBox, Frontrunner rack, light overland mods, M8000 winch.
    I think so, yup. Here’s exactly what i ordered from @Crikeymike in 2021, for a heavy overland build with armor/bumpers/winch/cooler, etc.



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  27. Sep 20, 2023 at 1:32 PM
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    nova

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    mike
    Prescott Valley - Arizona
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    slightly modified LE
    4.88, Air lockers, 35 Toyo MTs, C4 body armor, +2 LT, etc
    One more thing to consider. I’m guessing, but I’m not sure you have worked out just what you want from your truck. I sense that questions like ‘tell me what I should buy’ indicate you’re new at this. There is no shame in that, we all here to learn!

    If you want to save time and money, figure out what you want to do with it. And once you do, you should invest the time to learn how IFS works.

    There are many sad stories of people who have been unhappy with costly modifications. Luckily there are many good sources of information. I most benefited from Accutune, Filthy Motor Sports and Kai of Tinkerers Adventures

    I recommend you get your vision and education. Run your questions past the forum, you’ll have an awesome rig!

    Cheers
    Mike
     
  28. Sep 20, 2023 at 1:40 PM
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    bigdaddy2021

    bigdaddy2021 New Member

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    Armored, Dobinson's lift, 33's, MC TacoBox, Frontrunner rack, light overland mods, M8000 winch.
    Great post, Mike. Good suggestions.
     
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