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Plastic trim rubbing off paint

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Juuba, Sep 24, 2023.

  1. Mar 24, 2024 at 7:53 AM
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    mac1usa

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    My ppf guy said maybe could sneak pieces of ppf underneath the 4R plastic trim without removing. Not sure effective it would be. I am going to let him look at in a few weeks when snow and salt is gone
     
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  2. Mar 24, 2024 at 8:37 AM
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    Since the trim removal is quite a process, Maybe I'll try that first. I'll shim it up to get the gap bigger and see if I can sneak PPF in.
     
  3. Mar 24, 2024 at 8:44 AM
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    That seems consistent with the fix being to add some plastic washers. However, I wonder if being tight at the top was meant to prevent water intrusion and, if so, whether their fix has other parts to address that issue.
     
  4. Mar 24, 2024 at 1:00 PM
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    @Toyota execs/engineers/dealers please feel free to chime in here with your thoughts.
     
  5. Mar 24, 2024 at 2:25 PM
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    Sprayed some iron x on mine today. Rinsed after. No improvement

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  6. Mar 24, 2024 at 3:29 PM
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    Here's a picture I just took of mine after it was fixed in fall of 2022. You can see the gap at the corner whereas before it was physically touching the paint.

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  7. Mar 24, 2024 at 3:33 PM
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    Ahh thanks for that reference phot. My 2023 looks like that stock
     
  8. Mar 25, 2024 at 9:09 AM
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    Checked mine in garage 21 ORP with 1k miles never seen winter or rain. Looks worse in pic but minor scratch drivers side of emblem. Hopefully some ppf can go in

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  9. Mar 25, 2024 at 9:46 AM
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    20240318_180320.jpg My 22 is now getting the paint chipping off under the spoiler. If its not one thing its another.
     
  10. Mar 25, 2024 at 2:50 PM
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    Sorry to see that. Another thing to watch for. Thanks for sharing
     
  11. Mar 25, 2024 at 3:29 PM
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    I adjusted the brightness of your photo. Looks like AMPLE spacing was introduced all around the garnish. So not only spacing introduced at the corner? Would you say this is correct?
    upload_2024-3-25_16-29-43.jpg
     
  12. Mar 25, 2024 at 3:37 PM
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    mac1usa

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    Do you guys think more space will allow more water through going into the holes that hold the garnish? Thus water going into the hollow of the tailgate and rusting?
     
  13. Mar 25, 2024 at 3:57 PM
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    Even with the tight fit, the thing is not water proof… should have no difference whether it’s tight(to your eye) or gapped
     
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  14. Mar 25, 2024 at 5:01 PM
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    I'd say so. It's a little tighter at the top of the Toyota logo.
     
  15. Mar 30, 2024 at 4:01 PM
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    Does anybody know if there is a TSB from toyota to fix this or a part number for a spacer?

    Any official instructions from Toyota on how to correct the issue?

    I appreciate any insight as I am not finding much in search
     
  16. Mar 30, 2024 at 4:16 PM
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    I don't think there is an official TSB since everyone gets a different fix. So far the most official fix I've seen is them replacing or installing the missing rubber gasket.
     
  17. Mar 30, 2024 at 4:32 PM
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    I noticed this happening on mine. Id like to install a black trim piece or just paint mine(like the trd pro). When I do that I'll fix the rust.
     
  18. Mar 30, 2024 at 4:32 PM
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    Thanks for the note and your PM the other day. The place that installed my xpel film on the front end looked at my tailgate. He thinks currently the garnish is too tight and xpel film being 5mm thick would not tuck in there with the garnish on. He has another customer with a 4R who had the same issue fixed with some sort of spacer and is going to try to get me more info. I will share what I learn to try to help us all out.
     
  19. Mar 31, 2024 at 8:46 AM
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    I know the metric system is hard to comprehend for those of us here in the US, but noticed this reference to XPEL film and just want to note that 5mm is just a bit more than 3/16’s of an inch. If the original reference was “5 mils” that’s 5 thousands of an inch (.005)
     
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    The 5mm product is special, just for folks in Alaska. It's supposed to prevent scratches from moose strikes. :D
     
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  21. Mar 31, 2024 at 9:19 AM
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    Yeah good point
    I think don’t quote me here but he said it’s roughly 5 times thicker than a sheet of paper. Anyway I knows it’s thicker than that and lays nicely on my hood and front end.

    I am not sure it will stop the friction and abrasion nor was he.

    Met a guy yesterday at a gas station just bought a used lunar rock pro 2021 and had the same issue. Sad we all have this and it was not corrected in a factory all these years
     
  22. Mar 31, 2024 at 9:31 AM
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    The reality is we can take the whole car apart and find this kind of thing everywhere. On every car. I prefer to deal with these issues as they come. A little sanding pen, a little touch up, a little clear coat. All tucked in and probably almost invisible. I’ve seen some folks repaint their entire tail gate for this which is mind blowing to me.

    What do we think is happening where the bumper meets the fender?

    What’s happening where the splash guards meet the bumper?

    Spoiler meets the hatch?

    Window trims meet the body?

    Door handles meet the door panels?

    The list is large. I personally care more about things that could rust the frame.
     
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    I paid a shop to fix mine; they said there was a gasket in the parts diagram so they ordered that prior to the fix. They also said there was a gasket in there before rhe fix and it was "out of its groove" (or something like this) and this is why the trim was rubbing directly on the painted metal gate. Now, after the fix there is obviously a gasket visible between the plastic trim and the metal tailgate.
     
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    Do you know whether following the official instructions guarantees to solve this issue? It’s obviously introduced at the factory, when they would have used oem parts
     
  26. Mar 31, 2024 at 11:36 AM
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    No idea. I plan to remove it, apply paint protection film to the entire area the garish touches/covers and apply the new gasket to the garnish. I saw a video where one guy used a shampoo bottle to make washers so I might do that too. Sounds like the bolts and nuts might also contribute to the rust, metal on metal rubbing. Someone else said they used neoprene washers for those so I may do that too.
     
  27. Mar 31, 2024 at 12:14 PM
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    Thanks for parts list. I am going to keep access to the thread for when I speak with dealer.
     
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    Saw this which is another part number like WaWa 4R posted. Seal 76819-35030? Would we not get this deal from the factory though?

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  29. Apr 3, 2024 at 1:52 AM
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    When I ordered my parts, the employee at Toyota Parts Direct said this part number was not needed for my OR (after checking my VIN).
    I'm still waiting for the weather to improve before I tackle this. I hope he was right. I will also confirm if my '24 has the gasket on the garnish already.

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  30. Apr 3, 2024 at 4:36 AM
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    After the fix

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