Oil Change Interval: 5,000 miles or 10,000 miles?

And what conclusion do you draw from that? Do you think that you do that for a majority of your driving? Do your driving habits constitute severe service?

 

I agree, no point in doing it every 10k, might as well just change the oil. But for a one time experiment it is interesting information.

 

As I posted on last time also. Maintenance guide is the best friend. Take a look and see based on your usage what maintenance items you should do, not limited to oil change.

 

I voted for "other" because the correct answer depends on how you drive and where you drive.

The majority of people will be fine with 10,000 mile intervals. As @Captain Spalding pointed out, the manual recommends the 5000 mile interval for people who do the majority of their driving in the circumstances listed.

I did 10,000 mile changes with my previous 4Runner, because it was mostly highway driving, very little towing, and no off-roading. Also, generally didn't haul a lot of weight.

I do 5000 mile changes with the 2019, because I off-road regularly, tow regularly, have oversized tires without a re gear, and have about 800 lb of extra weight constantly in or bolted onto the vehicle.

 

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Here is Toyota's Maintenance Guide for the 2023 4Runner see page 37-53 for schedule.Maintenance 2023 4Runner.pdf

 

Good point mr rabbit

 

Maybe bumper to bumper qualifies as idling or low speed. But it wouldn’t count as severe service unless it was a majority of your driving.

Most congested cities in the US.

1. Chicago
2. Boston
3. New York City
4. Philadelphia
5. Miami
6. Los Angeles
7. San Francisco
8. Washington, D.C.
9. Houston
10. Atlanta

I live in Los Angeles, and even I couldn’t say that a majority of my time is spent idling or at slow speed. Do you really spend a majority of your time behind the wheel in bumper to bumper traffic? Do you really believe that “most everyone on here” spends a majority of their driving time in bumper to bumper traffic?

 

I'm waiting on a 17k interval Blackstone report I did on my Tacoma, I will share when it arrives

 

LOL. Now this is funny. Lifetime transmission fluid. Yeah.

 

You’re right everyone on here is good to go at 10k just like their transmission never ever needs a fluid change because it’s sealed for life because the engineers said so.

 

I was going to post something similar. To play devil's advocate, the "Excessive idling and/or" could mean a lot of things. Commuting to work in heavy traffic could mean excessive idling even if you aren't police/taxi/delivery. Same goes for how a "dusty road" is defined. Dirt road is easy...dusty road? The street sweepers only come around here once a year.

There's no sarcasm font so keep that in mind.

I'd rather err on caution while my 4Runner is under factory warranty and just do the severe anyway.

 

On a related note, the 2023 Warranty & Maintenance Guide says on Page 37 that you should lube the propeller shaft after EVERY DAY of off-roading. I don't think I've seen anyone on this forum mention doing that, and I doubt that's because everyone thinks it's so important that they would never even consider skipping it.

 

Come on man. We only follow the 10k oil change because the engineers said so. For everything else they can bite a big one and we do what we want.

 

https://www.4runners.com/threads/thread-titles-where-you-refuse-to-open-the-thread.32248/

 

Sorry to say but you’re not telling the truth on that thread. You opened it and replied to it. A oil change thread is like crack. When you respond to one you will always come back to it.

 

In the end, it's your vehicle. Do whatever makes you happy.

 

Wrong.

Oil change interval was not listed in that thread, although there were other oil-related entries. This subject definitely qualifies for the list though.

 

Watchout now. Certified Toyota techs gonna disagree.

 

Your correct. You said oil filter. OP can you ask that one now.

 

He won't get an answer.

 

Maybe he could ask about the metal housing instead???? Maybe I will add that to the list.

 

The list is open for any and all entries. Some used the list thread title as an entry. Of course, they've already opened it to add to the list...

 

I am wrong. Someone did list that. Post #16.

 

while you are at it also ask people to discuss their religion and political beliefs

 

Are these severe duty guys torquing driveshaft bolts, lubing u joints, and tightening all bolts on chassis and body too?

Some people are just obsessed with the oil, but you never see threads on the other extra recommendations.

Like diff fluid: there is no recommended interval, so when does everyone change it?

 

Good thing the OP didn't ask about break-in oil changes! (Photo attached of my pearlescent oil at 899.)


1) international Toyota docs showed 6k mile oil changes as recent as 2018, if I recall correctly.

2) extended interval oil changes have two influences in the USA... The EPA and Toyota marketing pinheads.

3) Short trips tend to let gas vapor into the oil and it doesn't burn off. Gas breaks down oil. That's why the 6-month recommendation even if mileage isn't reached.

 

Checking and tightening bolts, definitely guilty of not doing that. But lubing the U joints I do regularly at every oil change since the front is on ramps and it's easy to get underneath.

 

65ft pounds... Hahaha... I know the number, but always elect against it while I'm underneath.