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OEM Trail Rails?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by Dagobah, Sep 2, 2021.

  1. Sep 2, 2021 at 2:05 PM
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    Dagobah

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    About to order a truck and am seeing the option of a "Trail Rail". This appears to be a OEM rock slider that attaches to the frame. I've found very little written about them.

    Does anyone have these? I'm looking for more detailed pictures of them installed and any feedback on how well they work in both daily and off-road application. Specifically wondering if they cause any issues when entering and exiting the truck.

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  2. Sep 2, 2021 at 7:21 PM
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    They look very similar to the Toyota branded ones I had on my FJ. I believe they're NFab brand. No issues getting into or out of my FJ but I did make sure to step out a ways so I wouldn't get my pants dirty. They lasted probably 7 or 8 years before they got so rusty I took them off, but I didn't do anything preventative for them. I ended up sanding, painting rust convertor and coating with spray bedliner. I didn't put them to use off road, they were more or less for looks (although I did off road, just not to the point of needing them)
     
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  3. Sep 2, 2021 at 7:25 PM
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    For almost $700 you can get some aftermarket sliders that will 100% be better than OEM. Another user has them on here and they seem very cheap compared to others.
     
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  4. Sep 2, 2021 at 8:06 PM
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    These (oem rock sliders) made it onto the "which accessory did you regret buying" thread. Just sayin...
     
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  5. Sep 2, 2021 at 8:55 PM
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    Some are coming on our new rig. I didn't order it that way just discovered it while in transit. Planning on taking them off and selling them.
     
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    Give them a chance. If you're not into hardcore rock crawling, they will probably be fine.

    I was considering aftermarket sliders, there many outstanding options. But after being honest with myself, I decided to save $1000 bucks and a hundred pounds of weight.

    I've driven over small boulders by accident several times and never come close to hitting or damaging my N-fab steps.

    True sliders are definitely an important upgrade under the appropriate circumstances.
     
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  7. Sep 3, 2021 at 8:12 AM
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    I have them but there are very similar OEM rails that attach to the body and are NOT sliders. These DO attach to the frame but will not have the strength of of many aftermarket sliders. I avoid heavy duty rock crawling so I consider these a cheaper, lighter option that work for me.
     
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    Also you can get them for around $200 per side, install takes 5 minutes. No need to get them from factory.
     
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    This.

    I have a ‘21 ORP that I added the OEM trail rails to. I paid $394 for the pair, and it took me more time to get the truck on the lift than to install the rails. Sure, they’re not the high quality $1500 sliders. But I don’t expect to need that kind of protection. I’ve already had the truck resting on one of the rails, and it held fine without bending. The way I see it, if these work fine for me, and I end up damaging one, it’s only $200 to replace. I can’t buy sliders individually elsewhere. And, if I decide that I want to convert my truck into a rock crawler at some point, and upgrade my rails, I’m only out $400 (a drop in the bucket at that point).

    To each their own, but these sliders are an excellent option for what they are.

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    link to $200 a side pricing option?
     
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    Mine came with these rails. I already ordered some RSG's and going to sell these but here are some pics of them.

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    I think those are the ones I alluded to that attach to the body, not the frame. They are for looks only. The ones that attach to the frame can hold the weight of the vehicle.
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    https://parts.toyota.com/p/Toyota_2021_4Runner/Rock-Rails---Left/97004247/PT22889191.html - left
    https://parts.toyota.com/p/Toyota_2021_4Runner/Rock-Rails---Right/97004245/PT22889190.html - right

    free shipping too (see banner), play around with zipcodes near you as shipping cost does go up exponentially and coupon only covers a set cost of shipping. also with labor day savings my local dealer has them for under $200 a side...

     
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    Yours came with something else cause they're bolted to the body instead of the frame.

    I like the OEM rock rails cause they have cutouts for KDSS lines, whereas aftermarket rock sliders want you to install the rock sliders under the KDSS lines. I'd rather have my rock rails fail independently without taking out any KDSS lines (if it does come to that failure point). Sure, I sacrifice some strength, but preserve my KDSS which I use 100% of the time (instead of the rails which I may use 10% of the time).
     
  15. Sep 5, 2021 at 7:16 PM
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    Thanks! Just ordered. $183 per side with pick up at local dealer.
     
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    Wait, the Trail Rails are different than sliders? Disregard my previous comment then, my FJ had frame mounted Toyota sliders, which I thought were the same thing
     
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    So the Toyota rails mount to the frame?
     
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    Honestly though, why go oem with the idea of “I’m not going hardcore off-roading” for even 600 when for another 4 or 5 hundred more you future proof changing your mind? It’s an investment. I laments believe you but once right rather than twice to fix a regret.

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    OEM accessory is called "Rock Rails", has the part numbers I linked above, and mounts directly to the frame. These are rock sliders in all but the name.
     
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    Do you need to purchase any hardware kit for the frame mounted rails from Toyota?
     
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    Not sure but it looks like it's just screw in the frame. You can probably look under your 4R and see if there are some bolt's in the frame already.
     
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    There are many threaded holes already in the frame. I imagine the trail rails, if they mount to the frame, would come with the appropriate bolts and washers. No nuts would be needed.
     
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    Here is the window stick from my 4R showing the Trail Rail option that came with it as pictured above in my previous post.

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    It’s $400 not $600. My reasoning is they will work better than not having any and are easily replaceable. Bonus points for the fact you can buy just one if needed. I’m not looking to rock crawl or get anywhere there is serious potential for damage but I will spend time off road. Maybe they will suck for for $400 it’s worth a try.
     
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    I did the "real" sliders on my Tacoma. With shipping and powder coating I was into them for over $1,200. They came on a pallet and I had to rent a flat bed trailer and go out to the FedEx distribution center to pick them up. It was a bear to install them and they added about 200 lbs. to a truck that is rated for less than 1,000 lbs. cargo. Even with some pretty serious rock crawling I never needed them. The OEM trail rails cost me $400 bucks, were delivered to my porch and the weight is a wash with the tube steps I took off. They were easy to install and will hold the weight of the truck. They don't dirty up your pants every time you get in/out. I'm happy with my choice.

    BTW, to answer an earlier question--they do come with a hardware kit, i.e. a bag of bolts that thread right into holes in the frame. And I agree that the option to buy just one is great in the event you damage one side.
     
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    The trail rails appear to be a solid option for reasonable protection for the price. I might have gone that route personally, but I needed more of a step for my wife, and the trail rails don't seem to be all that good for a step.

    My RSG sliders didn't cost $1200+, didn't come on a pallet, and didn't add 200+ lbs. to my truck. And can be used as a step, from wheel well to wheel well.

    Not for everyone, but perfect for my use.
     
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    Are you able to get the front of your foot on them? I usually step up on my running boards and then rear tire to access a cargo box.
     
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    Does anyone know what "retrofit back to 2015 model" means?
     
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    it means if you have 2015 they will be able to be put on but not earlier years

    here is the rock rails info i think there are a difference it says 77Lb per side & $233.00 a side but his sticker says Trail Rail $669. or are they the same any one

    https://parts.toyota.com/p/Toyota_2...45/PT22889190.html?clickSource=relatedProduct

    these are mounted at the same spots that the steps or running boards ar mounted to the body not the frame,
    Hey @kwill do you know your part number for your slider
     
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