New competition? At least it’s not a 4 banger

True. It's the same with Jeeps. But, I wouldn't personally want to drive a heavy, slow SUV if I didn't have a use for one.

Sure. I've never said that a Subaru can't get taken off-road. I've even said that a Subaru could probably handle the amount of off-roading that a lot of 4Runner owners will do.

But, there's no comparison in off-road capability. A Subaru would be completely useless for a lot of what I do with my 4Runner.

 

It’s not all about you.

 

Yes it is!

JK

It's come up a bunch that a lot of folks just want a rugged looking SUV. One could even argue that, if it weren't for that part of the market, they'd probably discontinue the 4Runner altogether.

 

True. There definitely aren’t enough real off-roaders out there to dedicate a vehicle to.

 

Majority of people, myself included, would consider these reliability issues.

 

Have any of you driven the new Passport Trailsport? If so how was it?

 

Lol. Ok.

 

I drove it when we were buying our CRV a couple months ago. It's actually pretty nice and smooth. I personally don't like the push button shifting. But the rest was actually smooth, confortable, technology there.