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Need tips for sand/beach driving with stock Limited

Discussion in 'General 4Runner Talk' started by cchopan, Feb 28, 2021.

  1. Feb 28, 2021 at 2:20 PM
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    cchopan

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    So far the main thing I am curious about is how low to deflate my tires to in order to drive on sand trails and the beach. I've seen mention of anything from 15-28psi.

    Next, should I engage the 4WD or leave it in the full time 4WD? I've purposefully gone out to the sand and tested the different settings so I know how they work and seems:

    1. I can engage from H4F to H4L either in neutral while not moving or while moving at slow speeds, and also disengage without issue in the same situations.
    2. Trying to engage L4L the truck was beeping at me? So I went back to H4L. What's up with that?


    I want to be prepared and i'm planning on purchasing a pair of traction boards, the Staun deflators to make sure all wheels are equal, and this pump:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005ASY23I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

    Should I be considering anything else?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Mar 1, 2021 at 7:31 AM
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    18-20 PSI . Engage HI 4 ( not LO 4 )
    Depending on wet vs dry sand just stay on the throttle and off the brakes you want to use as tall a gear as possible to avoid wheel spin. If it were me I would disable traction control- you will get different opinions here. But you want to be able to goose it as needed to keep momentum
    Carry at least 2 traction boards as a just in case and a decent shovel. Preferably have a buddy with another 4x4 with you
    Have fun sand can be awesome
     
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    You could start at 20-25 and lower it if you get stuck. I wouldn't go below 15.

    The 88P is a popular inflator. It should be fine for occasional use. I have a 300P and am pretty happy with it for inflating 33's.

    Like @Overlandcharlie said, 4HI is best. You can experiment with traction control on or off and figure out what works best for you.
     
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    1. You can switch from H4F to H4L while you drive at any speed.

    2. To switch from H4L to L4L you need to do a complete stop -> shift to neutral -> push the tab and turn to L4L -> shift to drive or reverse. Same procedure back when you want to switch from L4L to H4L. The beep is telling you that it cannot switch to the low range without shifting to N.
     
  5. Mar 1, 2021 at 9:17 AM
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    i have that viair pump and it does a great job. i also have an arb deflator which works great. on NJ beaches i air down to 18 psi. def bring a shovel, traction boards and a snatch strap. no sudden stopping or starting. i use 4hi and it works just fine. if there are ruts from previous drivers do your best to stay in them.

    you going surf fishing?
     
  6. Mar 1, 2021 at 9:29 AM
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    Thanks! Actually just going to enjoy beach days. I guess the regular beaches get quite crowded around me but if you have a sand pass you can access 3 miles of sand trails as well as a beach so I'm hoping to make the beach trips more fun as well as an excuse to spend money on the 4Runner... lol
     
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  7. Mar 1, 2021 at 9:47 AM
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    Get yourself a set of Staun tire deflators
    I set two at 18PSI and two at 25PSI.
    they’re great. Once calibrated just screw them on and wait . You can pick either option depending on conditions so you have two air pressure choices
     
  8. Mar 1, 2021 at 12:06 PM
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    Yep! Already have them ordered. I looked into some of the cheaper options but almost every review of the Staun said they tried something cheaper and it wasn't the same.
     
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    I use an ARB deflator, which is nice if you don't always run the same pressure. But, the Staun looks super convenient. And @Overlandcharlie had a great idea setting 2 for one pressure and 2 for another.
     
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    For deflating the tires I still use this cheapo walmart tire gauge and I can deflate pretty easy. So not very interested in spending in the deflate department.
    [​IMG]

    Inflating is my problem with this Craftman 12v air compressor. I'll watch some cartoon with my kid inside the car until the tires are inflated back. LoL.
    Yes this is serving me for 4-5 years in snow and mud but damn slow. I will look for a good hard mount setup that doesn't cost as dual ARB compressor. Automatic shut of at desired psi is a must. I don't want to keep watching the gauge outside.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Look at Viair for reasonably priced alternatives to ARB. They have portable and onboard solutions, with and without holding tanks.

    The ARB (or maybe it's Smittybuilt?) deflator is only $30 and removes the core for quick deflating.
     
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    what is the advantage of having two wheels at a different psi? wonder if its something i should be doing in the future.
     
  13. Mar 2, 2021 at 7:32 AM
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    Oh not doing two wheels at different pressures . I have the Staun deflators set at two different pressures so I have two options for tire pressure depending on where I am at
    I do the fronts 1st them the back with just two deflators. But all tires are running at the same pressure.
    An example would be loose dry sand I run the lowest pressure whereas I don’t drop all the way down when running around fire trails where I am on and off pavement sections
     
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    oh i gotcha now! i read it wrong haha. thanks.
     
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    Interesting thread, things that get taken for granted until it’s a little too late!
     
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    True! I almost buried my Tacoma in the sand a few years ago, but I backed out and took a different path. Then I went back to the same beach another time at 18 PSI and had no issues. I wasn't aware that airing down would help so much. It makes so much sense, but I never thought of it.
     
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    I watched a guy bury a 4Runner in OBX. Deep water and a “puddle” look a lot alike. Ha!
     
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    ^^^^THIS is why I keep waders in the 4runner for trail runs. Aside from depth, bottom composition is good to know before you go in. :D
     
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    I know this isn't exactly about a Toyota, but...

    I bought myself a 1978 Chevy Luv. It's an Isuzu Trooper II with a chevy pickup body. Chevy's answer to the Toyota small truck. Yes, it was my first 4WD. I lived in Yuma, Az at the time. I went around to the Mexican side, to the north of Yuma, of the river. Bounced around there for a while, then saw a nice way down onto a sand bar in the Colorado river. Or what was left of it, anyway. The river. The sand bar was a nice big one.
    I stopped, and my wife and I swam around where we could for a bit, then, when we went to leave, we jumped in, and I gunned it. Buried it up to the hubs, first day I owned it. Naturally, no recovery equipment of any kind. I had to walk across the river to get home. It almost came up to midthigh on me at the deepest. Got home, a couple miles as the crow flies, called a tow truck, who told me he knew just where the sand bar was. People get stuck on it all the time. He pulled my tail out. Eighty bucks, but what could I do? Pretty steep for a young Marine in 1981, let me tell you!

    My wife was highly PO'ed with me, but what the heck. She's now my ex-wife anywho.
    Just my story of beach driving. In Yuma, there are miles and miles, and miles, and miles, of beach in every direction. No ocean of any kind, but beach out the yin-yang.

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