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Need help front end vibration

Discussion in '3rd Gen 4Runners (1996-2002)' started by elguapo4runner, Dec 6, 2020.

  1. Dec 6, 2020 at 7:23 AM
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    Hey peeps
    Hope everyone had a great thanksgiving.
    Just lifted my 2000 limited which has 300k miles. Also got some 17inch wheels and some Goodyear’s on her.
    At first everything was fine under 50 mph but over had a terrible vibration, then at 60 would go away but back after 63mph

    did two road force balances and now a slight vibration over 70. Also changed out with spare due to problems with balancing on front drivers tire.
    Anything else you guys think I should check???
     
  2. Dec 6, 2020 at 6:02 PM
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    What tires? Stock wheels or aftermarket?

    if you have an aggressive at or mt tire; a slight vibration at high speeds sometimes is just par for the course.

    Vibes can be tough to track down; but other things that come to mind could be wheel itself, especially if it’s aftermarket and not hub centric; could be rotors (though often you’d feel a shake when braking then too); could be a cv axle starting to go; could be driver side diff needle bearing.
     
  3. Dec 6, 2020 at 8:36 PM
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    I assume this wasn't an issue before you made the changes but check your lower ball joints, front end vibration is a symptom of them being worn. LBJ failure is a common issue on third gens, and it can cause your wheel to fall off.
     
  4. Dec 7, 2020 at 5:17 AM
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    Goodyear Wrangler 265/70 R17 with method wheels. Thanks for the help. I’ll look into it.
     
  5. Dec 7, 2020 at 5:19 AM
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    they don’t look great but had mechanic and place that installed lift take a look and said they are fine. Thinking about just changing the lbj just for piece of mind.thanks for the info
     
  6. Dec 9, 2020 at 12:11 PM
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    Let me know if this solves your problem - I'm having a similar issue
     
  7. Dec 9, 2020 at 8:52 PM
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    will do. It’s going to shop tomorrow
     
  8. Dec 11, 2020 at 10:17 AM
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    Ok here’s an update. Mechanic stated no issues on front suspension. So going to start looking into the lug / hub centric. Didn’t have to issue with factory 16in wheels after lift was installed. However I didn’t drive it at highway speeds since tires were in poor condition.
    Any ideas where to start with the hub / lug centric bs??

    thanks so much for the help, y’all rock
     
  9. Dec 13, 2020 at 5:35 AM
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    They make a ring that can be added to make it a hub centric wheel or I would starte by searching for wheels styles that you like and check if they are a 106mm hub bore . I believe the hubs are the same on the 4runners as the Tacomas . I had the same issues with after market wheels on my Tacomas in the past and the I hard that Toyota trucks use hub centric wheels. Hope this helps !
     
  10. Dec 13, 2020 at 7:28 AM
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    from what I’ve seen so far is the method 703-704 wheels I have are 106.25mm. Will the .25mm be an issue?
    the quick looking around on internet found some rings that are around $12.00 each, any suggestions on which ones are better?
    I appreciate the help
     
  11. Dec 13, 2020 at 9:24 AM
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    The .25mm shouldn't make that much if any difference in my opinion. It really isn't much. My after market wheels are 106.2 as for the rings . I cannot commit due to I have never ran rings . Maybe some one that has any knowledge with them can chime in .
     
  12. Dec 13, 2020 at 5:32 PM
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    I appreciate it.
     
  13. Dec 19, 2020 at 4:13 AM
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    Not a problem buddy! Aways happy to help!
     
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  15. Jan 8, 2021 at 7:16 PM
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    Rotors maybe.. If its an automatic are the auto front hubs un locking? Good luck sounds like s nice truck..
     
  16. Jan 8, 2021 at 9:38 PM
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    I’ll definitely check into the hubs. I doesn’t feel like they are locked. Been running it around. Just a light vibration at around 70.
     
  17. Jan 9, 2021 at 4:17 AM
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    So it did not have any vibes before wheels and tires from what it seems like your saying. Obviously, it’s either the wheels or tires. I would only run hub centric wheels. I have owned many Toyota trucks over the years and the only time I had a vibe was when I tried to run lug centric wheels. Lesson learned.

    oh, another time I had vibes was when discount let a new guy balance my tires and he screwed up. Took it back and rebalanced, vibes gone.
     
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    X 2 ^^. Over the years I have found the same to be true!
     
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    Hello everyone

    I am your 3rd gen genie. Your issue is not your rotors as you did not state it vibrates when you brake. It is not the tires as they have been road force balanced. Your issue that EVERYONE has or will experience is the draftshaft is out of balance. TADA! How do I know? 2 of my 3rd gens experienced the same. You have a few choices: 1. Take your truck to a driveline shop that deals with driveshafts (18 wheelers or something like that), 2. Order and aftermarket one (example: https://driveshaftstore.com/Toyota-4Runner-Driveshaft-1999) DO NOT GET RIPPED OFF FROM THE STEALERSHIP! 3. Last but not least, go to a junk yard and snatch one off of one!! just change the ujoints on it if they have not been changed. You want ZIRC fittings anyways.

    Yes I accept cash only. No bitcoin at this time :) LOL!!!

    Let me know your results.

    -Ambush
     
  20. Jan 16, 2021 at 10:37 PM
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    Your driveshaft doesn't just one day get out of balance unless you smack it on something and dent it...
     
  21. Jan 16, 2021 at 11:17 PM
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    Unfortunately our 3rd gens do suffer it. Why? There is a unserviceable rubber gasket that is at the head/front and it warps the driveshaft. Trust. Take a look at some overpriced driveshafts. That new driveshaft is welded instead of open with that silly open gasket area. I have been through this. Trust me.

    See pictures for reference - Aftermarket left OEM right
    4runner_drivershaft_compare.jpg
     
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    What aftermarket brand/company did you purchase the left one from?
     
  23. Jul 21, 2021 at 9:46 PM
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    The last owner of my 4runner was diligent about greasing the zerks on the drive shaft. Haven't had any issues with play,
     

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