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My lightweight build, advice

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Fltslr, Oct 23, 2020.

  1. Oct 23, 2020 at 8:35 PM
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    Fltslr [OP] the last hurrah

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    I am getting my Pro in a month, it arrives stateside on the 30th. I want to go light and I'm into long hauls with a teardrop. I already ordered budbuilt rock sliders. I also want a winch because of said teardrop. So.... I'm looking at a sos slimline front bumper, lighter than most, except aluminum.

    But that will add140 - 160 lbs. on the front end. Could I offset that with a 150 lbs. bumper on the rear?
     
  2. Oct 24, 2020 at 6:08 AM
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    I don't know that the concept of balancing heavy weight on each end and the concept of overall lightness go hand in hand...

    Consider a hidden winch bumper, and a synthetic line 8-10k winch. You're looking at a net gain of 60-ish pounds, with no need to deal with suspension or balancing other weight.

    Options include Budbuilt, CBI, SDHQ, probably others.

    Here's a writeup for the SDHQ, the first few posts pertain to a SR5, the last few pertain to a OR (would also apply to your PRO). All the hidden winch mounts will install similar to the SDHQ.
     
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    I've looked at the hidden winches and seems like access to the winch itself can be a pain. And they lack recovery points.

    I understand building vs. being light. But there can be a medium between a heavy build and no build. I'm looking not to changing springs unless necessary. Right now the build I imagine is 400lbs below GVWR with everything aboard. (Now Looking at hefty fabworks prerunner bumper with warn zeon 10s and a hefty fabworks rear bumper) So once again, would the bumper offset the weight of a light bumper?

    BTW, it's all about two three: light, strong, inexpensive. I like light and strong.
     
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    Winch access is super simple and you have two frame mounted recovery points; but I don't have a dog in the fight so I'm not trying to sway you one way or the other.
     
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    so you plan on doing armor front and back without changing the suspension? You’re going to be scrapping on any trail unless you get a lift. I’ve seen 4Runners with just a front bumper sagged way down, don’t understand it but to each their own. No, adding weight in the back doesn’t offset it. You’re sagging the vehicle down even more. Advice would be if you plan on doing armor front and back, plan on adding proper equipped suspension to handle that weight otherwise you’ll hate driving that thing on and off-road.
     
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    I'm just trying to figure out what to do. I don't mind changing springs if necessary. I was asking if those two changes necessitate suspension changes if the gvwr is well below maximum (if 400 lbs is well below). And I'm not looking into hard off road, I'm old and pulling a teardrop
     
  7. Oct 24, 2020 at 9:50 PM
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    Yes, adding those two pieces of armor if it were me i would change out my suspension as I would imagine handling on road would be terrible with stock suspension and off camber trails would not be fun. Especially while towing. Again, my opinion and you’re entitled to make your decisions, that’s just what I would personally do.
     
  8. Oct 24, 2020 at 10:07 PM
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    Thanks
     

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