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Lug Nut Size / Best Jack

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by FireDogBob, Apr 9, 2018.

  1. Apr 9, 2018 at 7:43 PM
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    FireDogBob

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    I have a 2018 4R TRD Pro and want to upgrade the stock lug wrench and jack. (1) What size are the lug nuts? I’ve scoured the owners manual - nothing.
    (2) Best choice of jack? I dont have after-market bumpers yet - using traditional jack points.
    -thanks, Bob
     
  2. Apr 9, 2018 at 11:18 PM
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  3. Apr 10, 2018 at 9:15 PM
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    Thanks Meefzah - I was betting on 20mm - so this is good intel.
     
  4. Apr 11, 2018 at 6:48 AM
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    NP. I use a deep socket, seems to work well.
     
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    the OEM jack works good on removal of the rear tires .. for the front I purchased a stubby bottle jack with a 9inch lift to place under the control arms when this jacks up , the front tire , vehicle lifts up about 2 inches that's it ,, and tire comes off with little vehicle tilt , very safe.

    I used the OEM jack as it was in the manual , to lift the front wheel ,.. to me very unstable dangerous.. with taller tires probably will not work ..so I got the bottle jack .

    I use these on the wheels https://www.harborfreight.com/12-in-drive-sae-metric-lug-nut-impact-sockets-7-pc-69781.html

    so these sockets are for properly installed torqued wheel lug nuts .. If the tire shop messes up the nut install do not use these as these are not very strong.

    I also do not recommend any air guns when working on toyota 4 runner wheels.. I torque to 80ft lbs and only use manual install no power tool.. lug studs are soft very soft ..
     
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    To counter...I have used the OE bottle jack a lot to lift the vehicle and I also use jack stands. If and only if you need to raise one tire I’d recommend using something to distribute the weight. I’ve used a couple of 2x4’s screwed together like a rigging platform to distribute the weight as well as raise the lifting potential.

    As for torquing the lugnuts the OE specs are 76ft•lb for alloy and 83ft•lb for steel wheels.

    I’ve seen these torqued down to 100ft•lb before and still hold tight so I wouldn’t say they are too soft. Of course YMMV.
     
  7. Apr 14, 2018 at 7:25 AM
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    So I built an OEM jack platform from plywood with steel feet. It’s certainly more stable and the weight is evenly distributed. Raised the jack about 1.5” and let’s me get my fingers under it for pre-positioning. I’ve been ‘practicing’ tire removal in my driveway - level concrete, safer access. I’m still concerned for real world road conditions like soft shoulders, vehicle tilt, snow/mud, etc. For $22 HiLift makes that red ORB jack stand that seems likely to fit this OEM base. Anyone have one of these?

    The front tires definitely require max jack height, but is easier to access than rear. Again, eventually when I get after-market bumpers, I can use my hi-lift jack.

    Thanks for the lug nut torque specs too.
     
  8. Apr 14, 2018 at 9:42 AM
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    I just have a cube of a 4x4×4 piece of lumber as a support / height enhancer for the OEM jack.

    I'd double check that torque spec, i think 83 lbs is alloy wheel spec. That's what i use at least.
     
  9. Apr 14, 2018 at 9:58 AM
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    76 lbs for alloy wheels according to my 2017 owner’s manual. 83 lbs for steel.
     
  10. Apr 14, 2018 at 9:30 PM
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    Hey FireDogBob, I've got one of those HiLift bases in my Jeep. I'll take some measurements tomorrow and check back in.

    Steve

    Edit>>> The base has a footprint of 12"x12".
    The recess for the jack base is 4 1/2"x 7 1/2".
    And the factory screw-type bottle jack is a perfect fit for that base, but it does raise the minimum height of the jack by 2".

    HTH
     
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  11. Apr 15, 2018 at 3:03 PM
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