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Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by jonny_04, Sep 12, 2019.

  1. Sep 12, 2019 at 10:45 PM
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    jonny_04

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    looking for some guidance and advice, I'm new to the forum! I will be installing my King front/rear shocks w/adjusters, Total Chaos uca, Icon 2" rear coil; planning to keep my stock TRD Off Road wheels until i can decide on an aftermarket set. I'll be wrapping my wheels in Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/70/17. My lift will be 3" front & 2.5" rear, i understand i'll probably have to do some trimming/chopping but my concern is will this tire size and setup interfere with my uca without having to run wheel spacers? Greatly appreciate anyone's response!
     
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  2. Sep 13, 2019 at 4:23 AM
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    There's lots of people running that tire size with less lift on stock UCAs... I don't know if the total chaos ucas would cause issues or not...
     
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  3. Sep 13, 2019 at 9:00 AM
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    You shouldn't have a problem with stock wheels and a TC UCA.

    Get an alignment after you put everything on and have them push the caster as close to 4* as they can get it.

    This way you may only have to push the fender liner forward and do a small amount of trimming on the fender flare (you might not even have to do this, just depends on your truck). But going this route will allow you to avoid a Body Mount Chop.

    When you get new wheels, be mindful that differences in backspacing, width, and offset can cause rubbing on UCA's, body mount, mudflap, front fender, ect.... In other words, try not to deviate too far from the stock backspacing, width, and offset unless you're prepared to do some modifications.
     
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  4. Sep 13, 2019 at 9:24 AM
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    Height not the problem its the front/back rubbing.
     
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  5. Sep 13, 2019 at 10:23 AM
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    Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it. I'll post an update once I'm done with installing; I'm ready to chop and trim once I get my aftermarket wheels! =)
     
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    Welcome! :thumbsup:
     
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  7. Sep 14, 2019 at 9:12 AM
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    Photos after install with tires; wheels sit a little inside the fenders but so far no noticeable rubbing. Will soon be getting aftermarket wheels with a -38 offset. Thank you everyone for your advice.

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  8. Sep 14, 2019 at 10:11 AM
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    Looks good, how do you like the ride?
     
  9. Sep 14, 2019 at 10:37 AM
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    I havent got alignment done yet; but for now the ride quality on road is amazing! No nose dive as mentioned by others, I don't have the kdss lean but maybe it might come around once it settles. I got my shocks custom tuned by accutune so I'm really excited to try it on the trail. Once I get alignment done my smile just gets bigger.
     
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  10. Sep 14, 2019 at 1:56 PM
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    Don’t forget to re-torque after about 500 miles, enjoy the ride.
     
  11. Sep 14, 2019 at 5:33 PM
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    You're the first person that I've seen who had shocks valves by Accutune installed on a truck. Please let us know how it rides after you get settled. By the way, what steered to toward having them revolved? Thanks
     
  12. Sep 14, 2019 at 5:34 PM
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    Revalved. Damn autocorrect
     
  13. Sep 15, 2019 at 8:31 AM
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    Looks great!

    Also interested in hearing about the re-valve. Did they tune it for dual onroad/offroad use, or more of an offroad only tune?
     
  14. Sep 15, 2019 at 12:11 PM
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    Looks good.
    Nice job on not going crazy with the preload.
    I also like the wheels.
     
  15. Sep 15, 2019 at 3:26 PM
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    ARB BP-51 suspension, T-13 coils, BF Goodrich AT2 275 70 r17, Gobi rack, black oak LED single LB.
    Do you have any lean? I just installed bp-51s and I have some driver side lean.in reverse at full lock I rub. I’m running 275\70 r17. Looks great though op.
     
  16. Sep 15, 2019 at 3:46 PM
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    DO you have aftermarket wheels? With negative offsets?

    Negative offsets can create rubbing, spacers can as well. Lots of people run 275s without any issues rubbing even on factory suspension.
     
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  17. Sep 15, 2019 at 6:29 PM
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    ARB BP-51 suspension, T-13 coils, BF Goodrich AT2 275 70 r17, Gobi rack, black oak LED single LB.
    I have trd pro wheels. They rubbed with the stock suspension, and although I can crank it more with the lift, it rubs in full lock. But this is only going in reverse, not forward
     
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  18. Sep 15, 2019 at 8:47 PM
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    After market UCA like SPC with a ton of forward adjustment will solve this.
     
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  19. Sep 16, 2019 at 10:34 AM
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    Who did your install?
     
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    Ride quality on road so far has been amazing, I got the valves tuned for both on road and off; more so for offroading. Not too soft or stiff on road; ill update again once I touch dirt. What steered me to having it revalved was honestly personal preference and recommendation from friends of mine. Accutune provides an awesome service, free shock tuning if purchased thru them. I really went down the "buy once, cry once" route. Haha
     
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    No lean yet, it's been 3 days since install and I wasnt driving it much for it to settle; but as of now there isnt any noticeable lean or rubbing
     
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  22. Sep 16, 2019 at 10:42 AM
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    If anyone is curious to know what my alignment chart looks like. I literally got it done today; drove 50-100mi before I got the alignment done.

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  23. Sep 16, 2019 at 12:01 PM
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    Alignment looks good!

    How does it feel after alignment?

    Any issues with rubbing on the front fender liner/flare?

    @lodi781 What do your alignment numbers look like and where are you rubbing?
     
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    Drives great once I got alignment, before the alignment it got a little swirly once I got above 60mph. No rubbing issues, i got it lifted to 3". I know once I decide to go 295 I will rub and require me to make some modifications.
     
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    I just did my rig. Fox 2.0 coil overs and also rear shocks. I went with Toyo 285/70/17... love the tire. Slight rub left full cranked turn, other than that I am happy with set up.
     
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    @lodi781 What do your alignment numbers look like and where are you rubbing?[/QUOTE]

    Hey buddy, sorry for the late reply. I don’t have the paperwork as they did it at the shop where I had the lift put on. If i’m Empty on gas, it doesn’t rub, but when I fill up it rubs. it is what it is I guess...
     
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    It’s not a free service from Accutune it’s a free service from King. If they are off the shelf it is what it is, but if you order them King will custom valve them for no additional charge while they are being built. I went custom valved with custom length and extended travel for mine.
     
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    So if you don't mind, what are the lengths (comp. & ext) you went with. And what exactly was done with the valving. Shutter stack? Thanks
     
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    I don’t have the info off the top my head. Filthy Motorsports and King got together and determined what was best for my application (tire size, weight of the vehicle, intended use, ride quality preference, etc.)
     
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  30. Sep 23, 2019 at 7:32 AM
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    Which Toyo did you go with?
     
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