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Lift suggestions for my needs?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by JBTRD, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. Oct 27, 2016 at 4:54 AM
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    Hi everyone i have a 2016 trail and want to make an off road beast, even more of a beast. I plan on sticking TRD Pro rims on and want to do a lift and upgrade my tires. Here is the dilemma this is my daily, work and long trip truck. So i dont want to make the truck undrivable or so big i will break my neck getting in, and most definitely want tires that can stop, and not have a long roll distance and a long life. Any other suggestions would be great i take this truck through thick mud, sand, overflowed lakes, and Georgia clay.
     
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  2. Oct 27, 2016 at 6:08 AM
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    TRD wheels, 265/70/17 KO2's, Bilstein 5100's .85
    I went with Bilstein 5100's in the front set at .85 which raised my front aprox 1". You can go 1.75 front which would give you about 2" front end lift, but then you should add a 1" rear spacer so you don't have reverse frame rake. I also run BFG KO2's which are super smooth and quiet down the road, amazing actually how nice they ride for a AT tire.

    I went .85 because it is my daily driver and family road trip vehicle, so I did not want to kill my mpg's with a lift I don't need. Also, my KO2's are load range C so they are light, no need for E rated tires for our 4Runners, plus, they kill mpg's.

    I just wanted to level my 4runner and reduce the front end nose dive while braking, 5100's up front did exactly what I wanted.
     
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  3. Oct 27, 2016 at 7:14 AM
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    I was orgianlly going to do a level lift at 2in but, i am conteplating higher but then i would need some mud tires
     
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    20160907_123641.jpg 20161012_170051.jpg Yes as you can see here bigger tires would look better I went with the 1.5 inch alloy Tower spacer and the 2016 OEM 7 spoke wheels and was very happy with the results, however there have been concerns raised by others as far as premature wear to your front end components. I have not experienced this other than a slight vibration at around 50MPH after 5000 miles but we'll keep an eye on it. I would do a full 3 inch lift if i didn't do a lot of towing and have a very short wife. Ha
     
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  5. Oct 27, 2016 at 8:27 AM
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    Would you have done a 3in lift with level on the front?

    Edit: would all terain tires look to small at that point?
     
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    yes i think it is needed if you go with a larger tire it will need more clearance, it will rake the frame to the rear but i think looks out weigh a little reverse rake. If you look at your runner with the wheels turned you will see there is a bump out or "bulge" in the wheel well at the rear of the tire this limits the tire size height due to rubbing the wheel well, the lift will cure this issue.
     
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  7. Oct 31, 2016 at 9:21 AM
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    It's not so much the style of tire as it is the size of tire that makes them look small with a lift. The OEM size ends up looking tiny with a 3" lift, but a 285 of AT or MT style fills in nicely.

    I have slight forward rake, I'd prefer mine level, but at a certain point you just have to step back and say "done". Plus, once you get it lifted, it will settle slightly... so in my case I had it level and 2500 miles later I had rake again! I'm too lazy to readjust the front.

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  8. Oct 31, 2016 at 9:23 AM
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    Assholes call travel "overlanding"
    Side note, though I like the TRD wheels, the Trail wheels actually are better for off road rubber: 7.5" v 7.0" wide.
     
  9. Oct 31, 2016 at 2:42 PM
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    First let me say,
    Wider is better however that half an inch overall is nominal at best, once distributed across the wheel actually only a quarter inch each side, I'm not even sure you would notice a difference. To have a noticeable advantage he would have to use a rim that has at least eight or 8.5 inches wide, but I will have to say that the trail wheel is much more aggressive-looking in person and that alone should be why you would use it IMO
     
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    True.

    I'm neither for nor against the TRD wheel, but wider is better. Even if it's a mm, that's something. Factor in that he also already has the TE wheels so he's going in saving $800!
     
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    Very true
     
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    Problem with a 7" wide rim (TRD Pro wheels) is that they can only accommodate a 275 at most. No idea why Toyota did that.
     
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    I was planning on doing a white and black build so that is why i wanted the trd pro rims, but i am not against useing stock rims
     
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    Plasticote them
     
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    Anyone recoomend a good tall terain tire size that wont look goofy with a 3in lift?
     
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    285/70 17 is kind of the 'go to' size.

    TRD wheels will accommodate 285 tires, too, even being 7.0" wide.
     
  17. Nov 2, 2016 at 10:33 AM
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    Anyone have this tire size on ther rig so i can see what this looks like
     
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    MeefZah what light bar/grill guard is that? looks great
     
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    LOL, yes, man... everyone who has modded has that tire size! That's what's in my above pics that I posted for you. Those tires are KO2s, though; these ones are my old (but damn good) Firestone Destination A/Ts.

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  22. Nov 2, 2016 at 7:30 PM
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    nice how are thise tires do they last long and brake good with little to no roll?
     
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    Anyone know if these tires are good?

    IMG_3061.jpg
     
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    You're going to have to Google some of this stuff, homie. The answers are out there because the questions have been asked many times before.

    The KO2 are good tires. Honestly though, for the cost to benefit ratio, I would get Firestone Destination ATs or Cooper Discoverer AT3s. The Michelin are okay but not as good off tarmac, and more expensive. They also don't look as aggressive, which you indicated was of interest to you.
     
  25. Nov 4, 2016 at 1:31 PM
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    To JBTRD, question about Michelin LTX AT2 tires: I've used this version tires LTX AT and now LTX AT2 since 1999 on 2 Jeep Grand Cherokee's and now my 4Runner. These are the best tires I've seen for my purposes which means: They are absolutely great in the snow, they handle the mud and trails here in Virginia near the mountains, they give a relatively quiet ride on the road, gas mileage about 19-21 on the highway, they last. I've had no less than 4 sets of these tires, and I still swear by them. Again, I think they are great in the snow! Only difference, I had the 275's not the 285's. I bought a set for my 4runner within weeks of owning the truck. I ordered them from Amazon at a good price. Just a note if you order this way, check the date stamped into the tire. One of the tires they sent was a couple years old so they send me another for free...and let me keep the old one. When I do my lift I will get the 285's same tire.
     

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