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Jbl dash speaker part number?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by Graves037, Feb 27, 2020.

  1. Feb 27, 2020 at 8:13 PM
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    Can anyone give me the part number for a passenger side jbl dash speaker for a 2019 trd pro? My wife blew hers....thanks!!
     
  2. Feb 28, 2020 at 4:57 AM
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    You should take into the the dealer and get it replaced it under warranty it's pretty expensive at ~$174

    Right Tweeter
    86150-35090
    https://parts.toyotadm.com/oem-part...uZXImeT0yMDE5JnQ9bGltaXRlZCZlPTQtMGwtdjYtZ2Fz

    Your other option is to replace both with and aftermarket speaker - I have replaced my speakers in my 2019 Limited with JBL audio. For the dash I used Kenwood Excelon KFC-X2C about $70 for the pair and better quality. It's a little bit of wiring work to interface to the factory harness - I didn't cut the factory harness, just wired to it. They do just bolt back into the same mounting location.
     
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    What exactly did you have to do to the wiring? And are they as loud without adding an amp or anything?
     
  4. Feb 28, 2020 at 9:39 AM
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    The Kenwood dash speakers are slightly lower volume then the factory - but higher quality sound, for me that was great as I think the system creates to much of a front sound stage. I run the head-units fader dead even and now the system sounds very front to rear balanced. There is a good write-up for a dash speaker upgrade here:
    https://trail4runner.com/2018/06/28/upgrading-the-4runners-dash-speakers/

    The article is for non-JBL systems, but the process is 100% the same you just reuse - solder in - the factory plug. With the JBL system there is an active cross-over so you do not use the capacitors (cross-over) that comes with the Kenwood speakers.
     
  5. Feb 28, 2020 at 10:01 AM
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    Okay I have a set of those same kenwoods (or something similar) that I had in my tundra. I also have these harness adapters but I was worried about capacitors and whatnot. So will just wiring these in work fine? My tundra is not jbl so I’m really not sure what I’m dealing with, I currently have my factory tundra dash speaker in that corner of her dash....the connection was the same.

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  6. Feb 28, 2020 at 12:27 PM
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    Your correct, when you put them in the JBL system just directly wiring them to your adapters you do not use the cross-over (capacitor). Our JBL system has active cross-overs so the system directly sends the dash speakers the proper frequency.
     
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    Perfect! Thank you so much!!
     
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    How did this work-out for you?
     
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    Everything went smoothly! Only negative thing I guess is they’re quieter than her factory speakers were
     
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    Glad it worked out for you. My preference is to have the dash a little lower in volume, to me it helps balance the front to rear with-out using the fader.
     
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    Mine too, but she just likes loud lol. But thank you for all your help! Very much appreciated!!
     
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    I have a blown dash JBL speaker too in my 18' limited.. When taking off the stock speaker there's a capacitor in series with the green wire.. I understand to not use the capacitors that came with the replacement speakers but when replacing it with the new Kenwood speaker do I just get rid the original capacitor that came with the JBL speaker also..? or I should leave it in series and solder them to the new Kenwood speaker just not using the Kenwood capacitors? Thanks...
     
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    Yes, don't use the original capacitor that's on the JBL speaker. The Kenwood Excelon KFC-X2C (frequency range: 800-20,000 Hz) are a different construction and a mid-range speaker that can handle going lower than the JBL's. I have done two Limited JBL replacements with these Kenwood and have not used the factory JBL cap's.
     
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    Thank you very much! one of my dash speakers sounds weird when the volume is higher.. upwards of volume 16+ on the headunit.. I am afraid it's blown.. but it sounds normal when the volume is low..

    Just to make sure.. I would want to combine the yellow&green wires to the positive and black&purple wires to the negative on the Kenwood right?
     
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    Sorry I am not at home to look at the wiring diagram. You do need to connect the wires to gather as the signal is passed to the door speakers that way. You should be able to tell which are connected when you look at the factory connectors.
     
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    Thank you..
    This is what the factory connections look like.. In this case I would combine yellow and green for positive, black and purple for the negative on the Kenwood right..? Sorry I am very unfamiliar with all the wires...
     
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    I just checked mine your correct. Purple and green get jumpered together and black and yellow together.
     
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    Just wired and installed the Kenwood speakers in the 4runner... sounds amazing! Thank you very much for your awesome tips..
     
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    Glad to help! Enjoy the "new" sound!
     
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    Is there a plug and play replacement dash speaker for the JBL system?
     
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    I am afraid not.. I was gonna go with the OEM JBL speakers but they were quite expensive.. so I went the DIY route..
     
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    thanks. Would like to upgrade them with aftermarket as others have done but I understand the jbl system is different.
     
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    Great info here! So just to confirm, when reworking the harness for replacement dash speakers, yellow and green merge to positive on the new aftermarket speaker?
     
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    You're correct..

    After installing the new speaker I realized the weird blown sound from the dash speaker from mine could be due to a bad capacitor that's in series among one of the four wires, since my bad dash speaker still made noise but just sounded off when the volume was high. I tried to look up online and find the exact same spec capacitors but couldn't find any. Theoretically if we can replace both sides' capacitors with a similar spec ones the sound should still be balanced. But I will have to dig into the capacitors a bit more to find all the cutoff frequencies and all that... Replacing them with the Kenwood was a great choice though..
     
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    Thanks for the clarification. So you kept the factory capacitor (the green wire one) inline? I was going to go with some bass blockers, as mentioned in some of the non-JBL swaps, but it is recommended above to remove the factory capacitor and not use any additional ones since the signal is crossed over in the headunit?
     
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    No problem.. I did not include any capacitors.

    If you are replacing them with the Kenwood mentioned in this thread, which I believe is a full/mid range speaker(not just a tweeter that can only handle high frequency sound) so no capacitors are needed. Since our headunit is an active cross-over, the capacitors included in with the factory JBL dash speakers are just there for a second protection..? Don't quote me on that I am still learning about all these electrical components haha..
     
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    Thanks again. Lots of info out there are non-LE speaker upgrades, but these are the specific nuances of the JBL system. I went with the JBL GX-302 speakers, which are rated at 2.3 ohms. They're a little bigger though, so the real challenge might be the install once I figure out the wiring.

    I even bought the TacoTunes harness adapter, then read afterward the big, bold disclaimer on their website: NOT FOR USE IN JBL-EQUIPPED SYSTEMS.:frustrated: So yea, I'm learning too.
     
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    Ha you're right! The one you bought is 3.5 inches in diameter compared to the Kenwood which is 2.75inches in diameter.. quite more girth to it..

    I also took a look at the one you bought and it has a wider range(90-21,000Hz) than the Kenwood(800-20,000Hz), so it's less likely to need a capacitor to protect it..

    Good luck on your install and I am curious to see how it turns out!
     
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