1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

If you’re on the fence about a PRO…

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Brawwp, Jan 8, 2022.

  1. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:02 AM
    #151
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    12,895
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    I've heard of this other forum before.

    Luckily, bullies and assholes don't seem to last around here.

    That's not to say that I haven't had my own asshole moments here. :oops:
     
    7385, ChessBoxin, McSpazatron and 2 others like this.
  2. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:09 AM
    #152
    banjos-n-beer

    banjos-n-beer New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2021
    Member:
    #23686
    Messages:
    677
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    Maine
    Vehicle:
    2018 Pro
    ^^^

    Yeah, that site gives off "grumpy old man" vibes. Half the responses are "learn to use the search box/function". Not really a friendly atmosphere.

    While I agree its good form to do your own research, I join forums for the information along with the "back and forth" with other owners. Like shooting the breeze with @Thatbassguy about music.

    I'm on a banjo forum (big surprise, eh?), and a lot of the new members are retirees who are not often adept with technology. They struggle with loading pictures, posting MP3s, etc. I feel bad when the first replies to their posts are jerks with know-it-all and condescending responses.

    On the flip side, its also annoying going thru all the effort to help out a newbie, only for them to disappear without even a thank you. I've spent countless hours tabbing out tunes for other banjo players, only for them to take the info and run, never to be heard from again.
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2022
  3. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:10 AM
    #153
    DRH

    DRH TRD Broverlander Extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2021
    Member:
    #19318
    Messages:
    187
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Santa Clarita, Ca
    Vehicle:
    2020 ORP
    My wife drives about 4K a year and I drive 30K with a free company truck, who drives what is not too much of a decision for our "forever" vehicle. I do have to fight a little over the mods. She preferred the wide running boards over the sliders, The 3"/1.5" lift made it harder for her to get in. Thank God she fell into the seat and did not get hurt when the jump handle snapped off in her hand. I would have never heard the end of it.
     
  4. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:21 AM
    #154
    McSpazatron

    McSpazatron New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2021
    Member:
    #19810
    Messages:
    4,868
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4runner OR
    Dobinson IMS Warn Bumper CaliRaised Sliders 285/70 K02s
    Is that the site that requires a weapons-grade pop up blocker to use?
     
  5. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:22 AM
    #155
    K-Paul

    K-Paul Looking for a water crossing

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2021
    Member:
    #23237
    Messages:
    1,062
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Corbin Dallas
    Vehicle:
    SR5 4WD
    LOL.. DEAD x Bakers Dozen!!!!!! :bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead:
     
  6. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:25 AM
    #156
    McSpazatron

    McSpazatron New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2021
    Member:
    #19810
    Messages:
    4,868
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4runner OR
    Dobinson IMS Warn Bumper CaliRaised Sliders 285/70 K02s
    Lol, it really is unusable
     
    Thatbassguy likes this.
  7. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:30 AM
    #157
    TRDLE

    TRDLE New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Member:
    #24749
    Messages:
    476
    Gender:
    Male
    Duluth, MN
    Vehicle:
    '22 TRD Pro
    I wouldn't even say that people buy a Pro because they don't know how to do mods. I'm getting a Pro because I wanted all the options. I want every bell and whistle I can get. If someone sees it as an ORP with an upgraded suspension, then you have a point. But I wanted dual climate, upgraded audio, etc etc. And hell, I like the red stitching in the seats.
     
  8. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:40 AM
    #158
    McSpazatron

    McSpazatron New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2021
    Member:
    #19810
    Messages:
    4,868
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2021 4runner OR
    Dobinson IMS Warn Bumper CaliRaised Sliders 285/70 K02s

    Or joining up with local forum members to discover a whole new off-roading hobby you never knew was missing in your life!

    I would have still had the 4runner, but without @Thatbassguy I’d be cruisin the mall parking lots looking for snow piles. I mean, I still do that, but poking around endless national forest trails is a nice addition lol
     
  9. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:46 AM
    #159
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    12,895
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    :cheers:

    It's been a ton of fun hitting the trails with you! I really lucked into a great group on TW and over here!
     
    McSpazatron[QUOTED] likes this.
  10. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:47 AM
    #160
    banjos-n-beer

    banjos-n-beer New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2021
    Member:
    #23686
    Messages:
    677
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    Maine
    Vehicle:
    2018 Pro
    Exactly. I had never been to an Old-Time Music jam before I joined the music forum. But a local member invited me out to join their group, and it really helped build up my confidence playing tunes I had never heard of in front of a live audience. Of course, a few beers helped loosen up my nerves!
     
    Thatbassguy likes this.
  11. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:55 AM
    #161
    banjos-n-beer

    banjos-n-beer New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2021
    Member:
    #23686
    Messages:
    677
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    Maine
    Vehicle:
    2018 Pro
    Anywho, back on topic. I was originally looking to get an ORP, but I found a Pro at a fantastic price point. But had I bought an ORP, I would modded it to look like a Pro, because, I like the way it looks.

    Then they added the dual zone climate control, and a Pro became my 1st choice if I could have found one at MSRP.

    ymmv
     
    Thatbassguy likes this.
  12. Jan 21, 2022 at 9:56 AM
    #162
    ElectroBoy

    ElectroBoy Ad astra

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2020
    Member:
    #15823
    Messages:
    1,947
    Gender:
    Male
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    2018 ORP
    The handle that broke being the folding flimsy one above the driver and passenger doors?

    You can replace them with a fixed one like the FJCs had. Or add an A pillar handle to the drivers side. However, the instructions for these mods are on the “other” forum.
     
    DRH[QUOTED] likes this.
  13. Jan 21, 2022 at 10:38 AM
    #163
    DRH

    DRH TRD Broverlander Extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2021
    Member:
    #19318
    Messages:
    187
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Santa Clarita, Ca
    Vehicle:
    2020 ORP
    My wife really likes the FJ handles, the T nuts made them very easy to install (5 minutes each total, including removing the old handles). Although I am 6'3" only my hair hits them getting in and out. I have Jason's custom bracket and the A pillar handle and might do that this weekend. The Pro model should have the driver side A pillar handle included!
     
    ElectroBoy[QUOTED] likes this.
  14. Jan 21, 2022 at 2:15 PM
    #164
    K-Paul

    K-Paul Looking for a water crossing

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2021
    Member:
    #23237
    Messages:
    1,062
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Corbin Dallas
    Vehicle:
    SR5 4WD
    For sure, im just going off of the arguments I have heard from the bigoted. Heck, I wish I had red stiched seats lol.

    In the end, everyone is an individual and as long as they are not imposing their will on someone else should do whatever the heck they want,
     
    wsu_runner and TRDLE[QUOTED] like this.
  15. Jan 21, 2022 at 2:33 PM
    #165
    mynameistory

    mynameistory New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2017
    Member:
    #5208
    Messages:
    1,146
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tory
    Vehicle:
    The same 4Runner everyone has
  16. Jan 21, 2022 at 2:59 PM
    #166
    TRDLE

    TRDLE New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Member:
    #24749
    Messages:
    476
    Gender:
    Male
    Duluth, MN
    Vehicle:
    '22 TRD Pro
    8k difference in base price. Upgraded suspension, wheels, and tires. A bunch of exterior aesthetic upgrades. Auto headlights, dual zone climate, upgraded audio, standard sunroof and MTM... I mean, there's quite a bit for $8k. A reasonable person could think those upgrades aren't worth it, but I wouldn't call it a cash grab. That's why they make lower trims, for those who don't think the Pro is a good deal.
     
  17. Jan 21, 2022 at 3:04 PM
    #167
    2016Pro

    2016Pro Why all of the Pro hate?

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2018
    Member:
    #7739
    Messages:
    1,540
    Why all of the Pro hate? Lol :rofl:
     
    mynameistory, Thatbassguy and TRDLE like this.
  18. Jan 21, 2022 at 3:17 PM
    #168
    glwood54

    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2019
    Member:
    #10964
    Messages:
    5,812
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gary
    Albuquerque, NM
    Vehicle:
    2019 OR, KDSS, RSG sliders, Eibach shocks, 265/70 Falken Wildpeaks
    I got Jason's custom bracket and the oem handle from Toyota last year and installed the DS grab handle. You won't be disappointed with that mod!

    Did you do the FJ solid grab handles on all 4 doors, or just the front? I'm still mulling that one over...
     
  19. Jan 21, 2022 at 3:19 PM
    #169
    GrantA

    GrantA Enjoying God’s creation

    Joined:
    May 25, 2020
    Member:
    #14533
    Messages:
    1,321
    Gender:
    Male
    North Carolina
    Vehicle:
    Fully locked 2020 SR5 Premium
    - GOBI roof rack and ladder - Westcott Design Rock sliders - M.O.R.E. Underbody Skid plates - Dual ARB air compressor & ARB single compressor - LED interior lighting - Ironman 2.0 meter awning and enclosure - Ironman winch with factor55 hook - Ironman foam cell pro suspension - Ironman recovery snatch rope - Ironman recovery traction boards - lilbscustomfab Hybrid Front Bumper - lilbscustomfab BMC - RRW RR7-H Hybrid Beadlock wheels - Nitto Trail Grapplers 285/75/17 M/T - 4.88 gears - ARB front air locker - ARB rear air locker - Hi-lift jack & mount - Sony aftermarket speakers - LASFIT External LED Light Conversion - Center console organizer - Glovebox organizer - ICS phone Mount holder - C4 rear bumper with dual swing arms - C4 gas skid plate - C4 rear diff skid plates
    Because Toyota refuses to provide 3rd row seats in the pro. :annoyed: When there should be no big deal in having them.
     
    suaveflooder likes this.
  20. Jan 21, 2022 at 3:52 PM
    #170
    DRH

    DRH TRD Broverlander Extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2021
    Member:
    #19318
    Messages:
    187
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Santa Clarita, Ca
    Vehicle:
    2020 ORP
    I just did the front jump handles, the back has the slider kick out and is easier to step up on.
     
  21. Jan 21, 2022 at 4:12 PM
    #171
    mynameistory

    mynameistory New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2017
    Member:
    #5208
    Messages:
    1,146
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tory
    Vehicle:
    The same 4Runner everyone has
    Is just for fun
     
  22. Jan 21, 2022 at 5:57 PM
    #172
    K-Paul

    K-Paul Looking for a water crossing

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2021
    Member:
    #23237
    Messages:
    1,062
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Corbin Dallas
    Vehicle:
    SR5 4WD
    In your room :bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead::bananadead:

    NACHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.......................
     
  23. Jan 21, 2022 at 7:11 PM
    #173
    banjos-n-beer

    banjos-n-beer New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2021
    Member:
    #23686
    Messages:
    677
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steve
    Maine
    Vehicle:
    2018 Pro
    It’s easy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

    Having said that I like your sense of humor.
     
    mynameistory[QUOTED] likes this.
  24. Jan 21, 2022 at 7:35 PM
    #174
    Old Red

    Old Red New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2019
    Member:
    #8901
    Messages:
    189
    Gender:
    Male
    Washington
    Vehicle:
    2016 4Runner SR5 4x4 MGM & 1994 Pickup 4WD Garnett Pearl
    It's a long list...
    @mynameistory, I mean it's not wrong a statement lol, there is some truth to it. All the engineering/tooling for the 5th gen was done well over a decade ago, and we are basically swapping parts in off the shelf at this point to differentiate/create trims/upgrade them. Toyota is printing money with the 4Runner. Really can't wait until the next gen debut. I think we might get a bit of an insight this next week with the new sequoia design language.

    That said to each their own. If you want a Pro, great! If you want to make your rig into a Pro, great! A 4Runner is a 4Runner. Get what makes you happy.

    Just be glad that A) it hasn't gone the way of the land cruiser, and that we have a good enthusiast community and a decent forum here. (The "other" forum has gone to the dogs due to poor management amongst other things...)

    But, If we start slapping TRD PRO on a Rav4 or Corolla cross, then we need to have a serious discussion...
     
  25. Jan 21, 2022 at 8:10 PM
    #175
    Brawwp

    Brawwp [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2021
    Member:
    #23880
    Messages:
    127
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Harker heights, TX
    Vehicle:
    2022 TRD Pro white
    I’m legit scared of what the 6th gen is going to look like. They freaking nailed the 5th gen and I think it’ll forever be one of the best body styles of any suv. This was actually a big reason I wanted the 2022 since it could be the last year.
     
    Jackstraw, rickystl and Thatbassguy like this.
  26. Jan 21, 2022 at 8:26 PM
    #176
    Old Red

    Old Red New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2019
    Member:
    #8901
    Messages:
    189
    Gender:
    Male
    Washington
    Vehicle:
    2016 4Runner SR5 4x4 MGM & 1994 Pickup 4WD Garnett Pearl
    It's a long list...

    I'm not scared. Toyota isn't going to completely change a formula that by all measurements is working for them. Yes it will be a new platform based on TNGA-F, new sheet metal, etc. but the DNA of the vehicle won't change. With the LC now gone, the new sequoia most likely moving up market some to help fill the gap of the LC price range, I wouldn't be surprised if the 6th gen moves up market a bit. I bet the next gen starts at around 45K (Which I'm not going to be happy about).

    That said, @Brawwp I think you are right. The 5th gen will become like the 3rd gen long term. It seems like only the odd generation 4Rs become the long term keeps. I'm going to patiently wait and see how things shape up for the 23MY 4Runner. We might see another year of the 5th gen if rumors hold true that the Prado/4Runner is delayed till 24MY. Maybe we will finally get dual zone climate control and heated/cooled seats on the premium trims (Really the only parts left to scrape off the shelf and add at this point besides parking sensors.)

    I will compare the 6th gen to what I see and know in the 5th gen, and either trade in my 16 SR5 for the last of year of the 5th and hold onto it till the wheels fall off. If the next gen hits it out of the park, then that changes the math. We will know when Toyota wants us to know.
     
    ElectroBoy, nimby and Thatbassguy like this.
  27. Jan 21, 2022 at 8:32 PM
    #177
    afret

    afret 2022 ORP, KDSS, Toyo AT3

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2021
    Member:
    #23882
    Messages:
    497
    Gender:
    Male
    North Idaho
    For sure. Look at the new Tundra. They seem to be heading toward the Lexus grilles.
     
  28. Jan 21, 2022 at 8:51 PM
    #178
    Thatbassguy

    Thatbassguy New member? Really??

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2019
    Member:
    #9314
    Messages:
    12,895
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    James
    S/E Wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    2019 TRDORP, KDSS, MGM
    RSG sliders, Yakima offgrid basket, Pro-Comp wheels, SOS Streamline bumper and skids, Warn VR EVO10S winch + Ultimate Sidewinder, Bilstein 6112 + 5100 + rear lift coils, Rigid Dually SS ditch lights w/Caliraised brackets and OEM style dash switch
    I'm looking forward to it!

    I love my '19, and have been saying that I'm keeping it forever. But, if they really nail it, and the fuel economy gets an improvement similar to the Tundra, I'll be very tempted to trade up.

    I doubt it's going to look bad. Like @Old Red said, they're not going to ruin a good thing.
     
    ElectroBoy likes this.
  29. Jan 22, 2022 at 5:52 AM
    #179
    nimby

    nimby in the drink

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2017
    Member:
    #3777
    Messages:
    4,498
    First Name:
    Jake
    California
    Vehicle:
    2018 SR5P
    Funny enough, I didn't like the looks of the 5th gen immediately. Took a while to grow on me.
     
  30. Jan 22, 2022 at 7:07 AM
    #180
    mynameistory

    mynameistory New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2017
    Member:
    #5208
    Messages:
    1,146
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Tory
    Vehicle:
    The same 4Runner everyone has
    I think this is the real cause of the delay. Why rush to release gen 6 when the current truck is completely amortized and making cash hand over fist? It has remarkably few updates in its 12 years of production and yet the numbers won't stop going up.

    You can see the recession, followed by the popularity of instagram happen in real time here.
    Screenshot_20220122-070354.png
     

Products Discussed in

To Top