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Hilift with “bungee” recovery strap

Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by 4x Old Guy, Aug 5, 2019.

  1. Aug 5, 2019 at 11:02 AM
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    4x Old Guy

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    Is it ok to use one of those stretchy recovery straps with a Hilift?
     
  2. Dec 11, 2019 at 3:31 PM
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    Just saw this, you're going to be doing a lot of work for very little progress, better not. I am assuming you mean using the HiLift for winching.
     
  3. Dec 11, 2019 at 7:01 PM
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    Thank you for your response.

    I’m new to recovery equipment. I have an automotive “emergency” kit from Autozone (jumper cables, light duty tow rope, a few other items), about 75’ of 5/8” nylon rope, and a come-along that I’ve had for years. If I got all the stuff everyone posts about, my Runner would weight 6,000 lbs. so I’m trying to sift through it all and figure out which set of items will be the most flexible without breaking the bank (or my suspension).
     
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  4. Dec 14, 2019 at 7:12 AM
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    Hey, so just figure out what you're going to be doing. But you are going to spend some money. I like the HiLift but you need to learn how to use it. The automotive kit will not work off road so forget about it. Get a battery starter, a set of recovery boards (doesn't need to be the Mxtrax) recovery straps (not tow straps, and again doesn't need to be the most expensive) and a tire repair kit. You will need to get a set of aftermarket emergency recovery points and install them. And then start experimenting your skill level and the capability of your car and your comfort level.
    Hope this helps
     
  5. Dec 14, 2019 at 8:06 AM
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    THIS is what I'm trying to avoid as well.

    I've seen a chain hoist used as a winch for a recovery and it worked well. The Hi-lift is an important tool that I hope I never need to use. I have the off-road kit as well.

    Maxsa escaper buddies are a good alternative to Maxtracs and about 1/2 the price. I would be weary of off-brand traction boards from Amazon and eBay, though.

    There's guys who will bring a full set of tools and spare drive-shafts, etc. I'm not rock crawling and I'm not going hundreds of miles from civilization, so I take my chances.
     
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    You're not going to add 1,000 lbs in recovery gear unless you're taking replacement axels.
    We all have to compromise somewhere, either price, build, gear etc. the best way is really to research what there is a little and go outside and enjoy it and then figure out what you will need.
    The key is going out and enjoy!
     
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  7. Dec 14, 2019 at 4:01 PM
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    Thank you for all your replies. I’ve been running forest service roads in SoCal mountains since I was in high school (dual sport motorcycles, ‘65 VW van, ‘85 Hilux 2wd pickup, ‘03 Tacoma 4wd). Never got stuck. Get my new ‘19 ORP, and first real trip (Eastern Sierras) and I get stuck in a mud hole (got pulled out by my buddy who lives in the area), and in sand trying to back out a trail I had gone in on (finely figured out how to dumb down the traction control so it would respond like my Tacoma and got out).

    Anyway, mostly it’s just my wife and I exploring and looking at scenery. Like roads that actually need 4-wheel low, but I’m not into rock crawling or extreme terrain.

    Here’s my list so far:

    Some kind of non-stretchy strap or rope to use with come-along or HighLift. I’m thinking 100’ long for a better chance of getting to a tree or big rock. How strong should it be? Make or model?

    Some kind of stretchy strap. How long does one of these need to be? Make and model?

    I’ve heard of “Bubba Rope”. Any thoughts pro or con?

    What do recovery boards bring to the table that a rope with a tree with a come-along might not have?

    Any suggestions for stowing a HighLift and/or recovery boards that don’t involve a $$$ aftermarket rear bumper assembly?

    Thanks.
     
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  8. Dec 14, 2019 at 6:05 PM
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    They sell winch extension lines, you might want to look at those. Also you will need a tree saver strap, a few shackles. That's for the come along.
    The Hilift would require the winching kit if you're going to use it like that otherwise you're not going to do anything. And if you are planning on using it to lift the car you will need a tire kit because you can't hook it up anywhere in the stock trim.
    Bubba ropes are supposed to be great, I don't have one. If you start with a recovery strap instead you can use it as a winch extension, plus someone can tug you out and they are much cheaper.
    Recovery boards are great in sand, mud and can be used as a bridge over obstacles, and there are places where there's no trees.
    You can just carry in the trunk tied up to the attachment points.
     
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  9. Dec 14, 2019 at 6:42 PM
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    For the Hi-lift:

    Plano All Weather Tactical Gun Case, 52-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B7ZB484/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_uXz9DbZE9XDRS

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    I keep this in my roof basket, but it also fits in the back behind the seats.
     
  10. Dec 20, 2019 at 7:48 PM
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    What’s the deal with a “tree saver”? Is it just another strap or is there something different about it?
     
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    For what I understand is shorter and not stretchy and a little wider. Chains cables etc will cut a tree and kill it. It's just doing the responsible thing to keep the trails open
     
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    Ok. That makes sense. Can they double as an extension for a recovery strap?
     
  13. May 20, 2020 at 7:14 PM
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    Wow this is so simple, yet genius! I never thought of throwing the hi-lift in a hard gun case...I refused to buy the mount from Gobi due to its outrageous price. Knew I could make one and there are a few mounting options, but this just may take the cake...to add to the irony, I have a kinda broken but still good gun case NEXT TO my hi-lift in the garage...
    :101010:
     
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  14. May 20, 2020 at 7:35 PM
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    I have to admit that I stole the idea from someone else here or at Tacomaworld
     
  15. May 20, 2020 at 7:38 PM
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    Well I thank you for sharing! It's amazing what good ideas are right under your nose that just get overlooked!
     
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    Definitely! I had never thought about a sleeping platform until I saw a thread here about them.:D
     
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  17. Aug 20, 2020 at 1:46 PM
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    x-bull-winch-recover-kit.jpg Hey guy's the important thing about all this gear is that it is rated and has a tag sewn into its make up that displays what it is able to manage in terms of tensile strength. Winch recovery is not play time it is a serious makeshift engineering exercise that requires a decent understanding about rigging and how all these tools can be used safely. A great starter kit is an X-Bull winch recovery kit which costs approximately $120 and comes with 23 pieces in the kit.
     
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