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Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by 4TasticRunner, May 11, 2024.

  1. May 13, 2024 at 10:29 AM
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    Isn’t that with everything? I’ve like my vehicles, until I don’t.
     
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    until you have to take your brand new suspension off for a warranty replacement.

    and imagine if you don’t DIY, you’re now paying a shop to install, remove, and now reinstall your new parts. dannnng, all that money you thought you saved.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=iro...ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#ip=1
     
  3. May 13, 2024 at 12:01 PM
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    No, but you just called it Chinese crap, as you did in the thread about the winch that about burnt up. And from the looks, it may have been wires rubbing.

    And I asked why no Iron man, and so far you are the only one and you just gave the blanket it was made in China statement.
     
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    because it’s the truth?
    Ironman doesn’t sit in the same category as the names mentioned by the OP.

    And I don’t know what winch thread you’re taking about, but I tell people to get harbor freight winches all the time. Even those are better than Ironman :headbang:
     
  7. May 13, 2024 at 2:45 PM
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    https://youtu.be/huMztKaHsUE?si=9lWl1ICKIfWl1E6p
     
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    I don’t think you ever said it was user error, or bad install from what I gather from reading the feedback.

    OP-sorry for the hijack, I’ll stop now. But I still want to know why Ironman didn’t make your list.
     
  11. May 14, 2024 at 8:56 AM
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    Hey yall, thanks for all the inputs. Sorry for the late response.

    I wanted a kit that can be easily serviced or tuned in both coasts of the USA as I am in the military. But I honestly also wanted a product manufactured from the USA, if I was going to spend a lot of money. Fox and Kings being the most popular in our community and largest companies for suspension in the USA met those needs/want. (Nothing against products manufactured in China, but I prefer certain products to be manufactured in certain countries depending on the costs and purpose).

    I think I read somewhere that Dobinsons are made/manufactured in China, but more and more shops are opening up to service Dobinsons in the USA so they made it to my list. I think Dobinsons has really started to impact the USA market, compared to Ironman, which means more shops will open up to the idea of becoming certified to service Dobinsons on both Coasts. And I understand Ironman and Dobinsons are huge in the AUS market, but not in the USDM at this moment.

    Sorry if my answer doesnt make sense, but this is how my brain works, especially when the products cost a lot of money.
     
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    RCI skid plate, RCI Roof rack, 265/70/17 Ko2 C,
    And it looks like Accutune released their new product today...
     
  13. May 14, 2024 at 9:25 AM
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    Thank you.
    From my understanding.
    Ironman shocks don’t need to be rebuilt like the others and they are actually easier to do, because of the foam cell setup.
     
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    +1 for Dobinson IMS.

    Really pleased with mine.
     
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    Just watched the video on Accutune Ride shocks, interesting new product. Gives you something more to think about. One thing that stood out on their design is the bigger diameter hose for the remote reservoir. Which may lead to wanting UCA’s with more inner radius clearance.

    They definitely sound like they are passionate at what they do. And also they provide a lot of technical support.

    Time to read up on their site about the new product. Curious as to what the spring options are. Pick a spring and custom tune the shocks.
     
  16. May 14, 2024 at 11:59 AM
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    Glad I saw this. Hand't heard of it before while researching. But you're saying once you moved the sway bar, it was hitting support bracket... for what? Your aftermarket skids? Or it was hitting an OEM bracket/mount/part of some sort? And you had to fabricate your own spacers? What's the point of buying a "kit" from a place like Accutune if it doesn't actually come with everything you need to properly install stuff without clearance issues?
     
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    Another vote for Dobinsons IMS. I switched over from an Eibach setup and I'm very pleased with the IMS.

    I use my 4R as a daily driver and do about 4-6 trips a year. Dob IMS suits my needs perfectly.

    If you decide to pass on the MRR's, put the extra money towards the billet UCA.
     
  18. May 14, 2024 at 12:46 PM
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    I believe most kits provide swaybar relocation kit. I think Fox does provide a swaybar relocation kit, but you have to purchase separately for Dobinsons (the option and explanation is provided when you select the shocks on Exit Offroad website). Mr Mike at Exit told me it really depends on the springs and the lift height, whether or not the aftermarket skid plate might hit the sway bar.
     
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    Do you think I need billet UCA? i was planning on just getting JBA standard ones.
     
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    Most people don't need the billet UCA other than adding some bling. They are sexy for sure.


    There are two main types of UCAs on the market: billet and tubular. Billet UCAs are typically made from a solid piece of aluminum, while tubular UCAs are made from a hollow tube of steel or aluminum. Both types have their own set of pros and cons, and the best option for your vehicle will depend on your specific needs and preferences.

    One of the key advantages of billet UCAs is their strength and durability. Because they are made from a solid piece of material, they are less likely to bend or break under heavy loads or in the event of an accident. They are also typically more precise and have a higher level of adjustability, which can be a big plus for those looking to fine-tune their suspension setup.

    Tubular UCAs, on the other hand, are generally considered to be more lightweight and offer improved suspension travel. The hollow design of the tube makes them less stiff than billet UCAs, which can help to improve the ride quality of your vehicle. They are also generally less expensive than billet UCAs, making them a more budget-friendly optio
     
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    I'm just confused on what, exactly, was hitting what. We're talking about clearance issues between a relocated OEM sway bar and an aftermarket skid plate? Or a factory component somewhere?
     
  22. May 14, 2024 at 2:14 PM
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    I think, when you install larger diameter coils, it may require you to move the sway bar forward, which may cause the swaybar to now come in contact with aftermarket skid plates. So you will need to add spacers to the skid plate bolts to make room for the sway bar. I think tacomas also have this issue but many of them just completely remove the sway bar.
     
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    Thanks for your explanation! I think im just going to go with JBA or other simple tubular with rubber bushings (OEM + styles). I dont want heim joints etc and dont really want to stress about UCA maintenance. As stated, i might go with JBA or put little more $$ for tubular dobinsons for my simple build.
     
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    You don't need the billet version. I ran both the tubular & billet from Dobinsons and learned quite a bit about alignment in the process. Strength & durability aside, the billet version offers significantly more adjustability as opposed to their tubular design.

    I didn't upgrade mine for "bling" factor. Upon upgrading from the OEM UCA's to the tubular Dobs, my wheels got pushed back further towards the cab and I could not achieve the alignment specs I wanted, due to their limited adjustability. Aftermarket UCA's tend to position the upper ball joint further "backwards" so you need less adjustment from the lower control arm to regain caster figures. In my experience, swapping the UCA's resulted in less caster, and lots of rubbing from my 285/70's, that did not rub at all with the OEM UCA. Adjustability was limited, and after multiple attempts to correct, I decided to invest in a more adjustable UCA to solve my particular issue. Watch the video from "Tinkerer's Adventure" on this subject, it's very informative.

    I should have been more clear in my previous comment; My suggestion was to take the savings difference from MRR vs IMS and invest in a UCA that offers higher levels of adjustability, in order to "future proof" in case your alignment needs change in the future. Sounds like you've already got this down with the JBA's though...I've read lots of positive reviews both on 4R forums and Tacomaworld about those!
     
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    I just watched the Accutune's video and checked their website. It costs the same as the Fox 2.5 Performance Elites, which were out of my budget =(

    I would love to get them though, I like their reservoir and DSC design better than Fox.
     
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    Ok got it, thank you. So not an issue unless you're running those aftermarket skid plates.
     
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    Look under your rig, you will see two supports leading from under the radiator support back towards the frame, the driver side support is what the swaybar will have contact with if you use the swaybar relocate kit. Which is recommended if you go with 2.5” shocks. So you either remove the supports or you shim them down so you can get clearance for the swaybar, and in shimming them down you loose that amount of ground clearance on enginge skid. Your RCI skids mount to theses supports. Sooo if you remove the supports (mounts) you will have to make a spacer for the front mount of your engine skid. Or you go with 2” shocks.
     
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    Right... I don't have RCI skids. I don't have any aftermarket skids and I don't plan on running any. So this shouldn't be an issue?
     
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    Factory support, some people call it radiator support others call it skid plate mount. This is what swaybar contacts.
     
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    OP has RCI skid,
     

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