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H9 in H11 headlight sockets?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by 4runningMan, Feb 18, 2019.

  1. Jan 13, 2020 at 2:41 PM
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    Ah, got it! Already have the H9's in mine, but haven't done the 9011's yet.
     
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  2. Jan 13, 2020 at 4:31 PM
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    Get a chance yet to see if they’re much brighter?
     
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  3. Jan 14, 2020 at 6:47 AM
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    yeah last night i popped em on and off a bunch. they are significantly brighter than stock! it was during the day that i put them in, but popped em on when i had the passenger 9011 in and the factory driver and you could just tell but looking at the bulbs in the housing that the 9011's are way brighter. great pattern as well, i dont think i need to make any adjustments. very happy with the fog/lo/hi combo i installed.

    i also want to note for anyone planning on the 9011 install. you do NOT need to trim the plastic tab on the interior of the bulb socket like you have to do with the H9, JUST the top center tab on the outside of the socket. the connector will plug and play, at least it did for my 2012 TE.
     
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  4. Jan 14, 2020 at 8:46 AM
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    Yep. I have the H9/9011 combo in my headlights now, fantastic upgrade for cheap and retains all of the performance benefits of proper halogen (focus and throw, as well as the ability to clear snow and condensation).
     
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    Which 9011's did you all go with?
     
  6. Mar 31, 2020 at 9:34 AM
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    philips. got em on Amazon.
     
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    Did the Philips 9011 upgrade today. I ended up using the orings off the old bulbs and the new bulbs, which took out a small movement they had. Hope that doesn't cause any issues. This mod was simpler than the H9's! Can't wait to try these out. Highly recommend doing this.
     
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    How hard is it removing/installing the low beam bulbs? I've been pondering the H9 swap. The headlights on my 4R are its least desirable feature.
     
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    3 minutes per side with a file and a small pair of wire snippers. File for the tab on the light that has to be trimmed down slightly and snippers for the little tab inside the bulb socket that needs to be removed.
     
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    You got more finesse than me then! Cause I couldn't get Philips H9s in my 2020 without trimming both the big center metal tab AND one of the others. Maybe I was just incompetent, but I didn't have that issue on the Subaru I was running H9s on.

    PS, as others have noted the micro cutter or similar snips take off the plastic tab in the connector with zero trouble. It's like literally a half a second to do it. No Dremel needed. I also use them to trim the metal tabs, though I did snap one of my micro cutters in half once while doing it... So this last time I used mini pliers to just bend the extra piece of metal tab back and forth until it broke off. Took 5 seconds. So I've never needed to use a Dremel or a file.

    Sorry I didn't take pics.

    PPS, the cutters and the micro pliers came in a set for $15 at Home Depot.
     
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    Just for those who may not be aware, Toyota now sells their OEM LED High Performance Fog Lights in case you want to go OEM / DOT Compliant LED instead of swapping bulbs on your halogen fogs. They cost $140, or $240 installed. They're the fogs that Toyota introduced a year or two ago on the TRD Pro. They've also been putting them on some SR5s. My dealer had a SR5 with these and the TRD wheels from the factory, listed as options on the window sticker.

    I had my dealer put these fogs in for me on my 2020 Limited. Coulda easily done it myself but was happier to have them responsible if they didn't work or something (also I wasn't sure about aiming issues).

    They work well. Bright light very, very deep to the sides left and right, but low down where it's supposed to be.

    Here's a review on them: https://trail4runner.com/2019/03/11/oem-led-4runner-fog-light-upgrade/
     
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  12. Jul 18, 2020 at 4:46 PM
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    Yeah, what @2016 4Runner SR5 said. Super easy mod with a pair of snips. I didn't use a file, but that'll work too.
     
  13. Jul 18, 2020 at 4:55 PM
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    Thanks. I was actually wanting to know what you need to do to remove the oem bulb from the base in the headlight housing. Can you just reach in and grab it, or do you have to remove something to access it?
     
  14. Jul 18, 2020 at 5:32 PM
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    Pull off the rubber dust cap, grab the bulb base and give it a 1/4 turn. Should pop right out. 12 seconds max.
     
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  15. Jul 18, 2020 at 6:34 PM
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    Yep, super easy.

    Battery might make it a little tighter on the drivers side, but i kept it in place.
     
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    I still worry about the heat with the H11-H9 mod. The H9 temps are high and in an enclosed space, unlike the high beam.
     
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    I wouldn't worry about it too much. If there was a single incident of them melting a headlight housing or causing electrical issues, we'd absolutely hear about it on this forum or the other one.
     
  18. Jul 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM
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    Melting has been reported with this mod in other Toyotas. For instance, Post 11 here, about a Camry.

    I'm sticking with the H11s for now and just going with Silverstar Ultras. I'm hoping the 2021 LEDs will be (a) a genuine improvement and (b) plug and play.
     
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    I'm really inclined to think that Camry incident is a one-off and maybe not even related to running H9s. As nimby says above, a zillion people have done this and you can't find reports of problems. The advocates for each of the various lighting solutions are so zealous (it's practically a holy war around here :D) that you'd be sure to hear about it. The aftermarket drop-in LED boosters, or the HID boosters, or the Morimoto full-retrofit boosters would be crowing about it if they had any evidence that the H9 conversion caused problems.

    Like Red_5, I'm really, really REALLY hoping that the 2021 OEM LEDs will be a big improvement and easy to swap into earlier 4Rs. I put the OEM LED fog lights in my 2020 4R and they're good. So hoping for the same from Toyota's new LED headlights.
     
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    Good info and thanks for the post.

    This is literally the only case I've read about. I don't want to discount that persons issue, but it was in a different vehicle with a different headlight housing. Perhaps a smaller headlight housing built up enough heat to cause his issue? I'm not sure.
     
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  21. Jul 20, 2020 at 2:19 PM
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    Perhaps. Like I said, I'm going to wait to see if the OEM LEDs are plug-and-play. If not, I'll worry more about the H11/H9 question.
     
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