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Gen 5 roof handle?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by AChar, May 24, 2023.

  1. May 24, 2023 at 12:02 PM
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    I have a 23 trd off road, with the stock roof rack and have added slider steps. However, I am still missing something to grab onto when I get in. Currently I use the steering wheel or the lip of the roof where to roof rack mounts (I really wish it had the same side Pilar handle like is on the passenger side). Has anyone heard or seen something that maybe fits into the roof slot where the roof rack is mounted further back. Something like a 12 inch section of roof rail up front on either side (I think that would make a perfect grab handle)... And maybe even have some other utility benefits?
     
  2. May 24, 2023 at 12:23 PM
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    https://www.4runners.com/threads/driver-side-a-pillar-grab-handle.10893/
     
  3. May 24, 2023 at 1:37 PM
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    That's a good link for you ↑
    Funny enough, I'm in the process of mounting 4 decent sized grab handles on my oem roof rack side rails and 3/4 cargo basket. Just finished buying all the materials to do it right and water seal, combination of SS nuts n bolts, and self tapping hex head bolts.

    I've also added a driver side pillar handle. But I chose OEM FJ driver handle, matching color, lots of room for your fingers. Let me give you the best advice you can get; most people order a custom mounting bracket online that lives in the pillar and gives you a proper second mounting point. BUT don't slap on an OEM 4Runner passenger handle without swapping the whole drivers pillar assembly for passenger style. Because you'll lose significant finger clearance as the drivers side pillar isn't contour shaped specifically for a handle like passenger side.

    Goodluck!

    https://www.4runners.com/threads/5th-gen-driver-pillar-fj-oem-oh-shit-handle.26151/

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  4. May 24, 2023 at 1:39 PM
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    This is why you need the matching passenger pillar along with a passenger handle

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  6. May 24, 2023 at 9:40 PM
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    Thank you... Really trying avoid serious mods like these. Also, the 2023 has an airbag in the driver side Pilar
     
  7. May 24, 2023 at 10:28 PM
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    All 5th gens have an air bag there, same as the passenger side A pillar, which does have a grab handle. There's a member on here whose 4R was in a wreck, he had a grab handle on the driver's side, and the airbag deployed as it was supposed to.
     
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  8. May 25, 2023 at 6:25 AM
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    With all due respect, none of these are serious mods at all, and you said you want ideas for grab handles my friend. And, if you click on the link for my thread I sent, and actually read it, you'd find an educated conversation directly about drivers side air bags - and a conclusion that drivers handle is OK.

    Nevermind
     
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  9. May 25, 2023 at 12:50 PM
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    I've been pondering this topic a bit. Assuming it's not a crash safety issue, I wonder if the A pillar position would feel like the best location functionally and whether it would clutter my field of view. I could find out by letting my wife drive for a change while I sit in the passenger seat but I'm not ready for that kind of sacrifice. It does seem like a grab handle would be convenient, since I tend to haul myself in by the steering wheel.
     
  10. May 25, 2023 at 1:26 PM
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    I can assure you that this does not interfere with the field of view in any way. It might seem that way from the first photo below, but it does not.
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    For anyone interested, this is what the first iteration, using Jason's bracket, the oem grab handle, and modified oem a-pillar looked like:
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    Solid setup, I just wanted a bit more finger room.
     
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    Truer words were never spoken. My wife got a new car in November and, except for driving it home that night because she didn't want to drive it in the dark, I've been in that car ZERO times since I refuse to ride in a car she drives. Nope, we'll just take the runner and I'll drive.
     
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    Do you use it a lot?
     
  13. May 25, 2023 at 2:55 PM
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    Quite a bit. I prefer to use it exiting the 4R so as not to slide over the seat edge, flattening that out. I use it mostly in conjunction with the sliders I have.
     
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    I have both the a-pillar grab handle and the FJ grab handle replacing the flip down handle over the door. I rely more on FJ handle. In retrospect I might have started with that and live with it for a while. I use both, but I could probable be happy with just the FJ handle.



    Look here for installation notes.
     
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    I'll start by using the flip-down handle more, but I'll keep this mod in mind if it doesn't seem like enough.
     
  16. May 25, 2023 at 5:07 PM
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    Of course it will interfere with your view :)
    So do ditch lights
    But you'll have a handle!
     
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    The FJ handle inspires much more confidence. I installed it in 20 minutes. Now that I’ve done it once I could do it in 10 minutes.

    Do you have running boards or sliders?
     
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    That looks sick!
    I know I'd hit my bald head tho on the fj
     
  19. May 25, 2023 at 5:16 PM
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    backpacker

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    Yeah, the flip-down handle isn't exactly a rated recovery point.

    I have Predator steps because that's what was on the way. I have mixed feelings about them, so they may not be on for the long haul. However, I find them useful for stepping down and thus far it hasn't gouged my shin. However, a big rock on some FS road will eventually teach me a lesson.
     
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  20. May 25, 2023 at 5:23 PM
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    Captain Spalding

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    There was an adjustment period, but it was brief. After a couple of days I’ve never hit my head again.

    My 4Runner came with Predator steps. They were the first thing to go. I replaced mine with sliders, but even the run of the mill Toyota running boards would be preferable to the Predators. YMMV.
     
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  21. May 25, 2023 at 6:08 PM
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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
    It's less of a big deal for those who have one of them fancy heads of hair
     
  22. May 25, 2023 at 6:15 PM
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    Captain Spalding

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    I understand. I’m still fancy in that way but I have friends who aren’t and they have been quite vocal that hair provides a level of protection that those of us who have it take for granted.

    Maybe a paracord handle would be a good choice for you?

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  23. May 25, 2023 at 7:38 PM
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    2Toys

    2Toys Imperial Star Cruiser

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    My 2015 Tacoma has the grab handle on both A pillars (YOU LISTENING TOYOTA?). After 9 years and 113,000 miles as a daily driver, I am used to that handle. I use it every single time I enter the vehicle and when I exit. It irritates me to no end that my 4 Runner does not have a handle on the driver's A pillar.
     
  24. May 26, 2023 at 11:50 AM
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    The driver's side grab handle does not obstruct the view;

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