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Fumoto Oil Drain Valve

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by BobbyB, Mar 2, 2021.

  1. Mar 2, 2021 at 1:17 AM
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    I have used Fumoto Oil Drain Valves in several of my vehicles over the years to avoid the eventual stripping of the threads in aluminum oil pans and for the convenience they bring.

    I’ve never had a problem with one and am considering using one on my 2021 OR when it gets to its first oil change (has 1400 mi) in a couple of months.

    I would like to hear what experience others have had using one on a 4R whether it is good or bad before I put one on my OR....

    thanks for your input..
     
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  2. Mar 2, 2021 at 1:43 AM
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    Works great
    Make sure to use a drain tube especially if your 4 is lifted!
     
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  3. Mar 2, 2021 at 5:37 AM
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    I've been using Dimple magnetic drain plugs for years in all my vehicles, and currently have one installed in my 4R since the first oil change. The removable doors in most skid plates (both oem and aftermarket) aren't quite wide enough for my liking. I've already had some oil spill under the skid plate when the drain plug is first removed, and don't want it dripping on my driveway and garage floor. I also don't want to remove skid plates every time I change the oil, so I ordered a Fumoto F133S with the short nipple cap attachment and tubing. Apparently the new Fumoto valves have a much larger orifice to let the oil drain in less than half the time compared to the older ones. Very nice unit, but I haven't installed it yet.
     
  4. Mar 2, 2021 at 5:47 AM
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    I installed on my 2021 when I changed the oil at 1000 miles but wont have a report on how well it works for another 9000 miles. :D
     
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    I have one on my 2018 and on the wife's Subaru.

    Quick and easy.

    I love them!
     
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    There doesn't have to be an "eventual" stripping issue just don't break your arm tightening them.
     
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    I put one on my 2019 TRD Pro along with replacing the plastic oil filter cap assembly with a metal one. No issues with the Fumoto, these are two upgrades I’m glad I made.
     
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    What Lightning03 said :)
     
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    Thinking of doing the Fumoto @ next oil change. Did you get the the F133S: Short Nipple or the F133N Long Nipple? The way I see it, it's directed towards the ground so no need for drain tubing, correct??. I just did R&R Oil so I have 9900< miles till next change., I did the Aluminum filter bowl swap when I did the 1st change @ 20k mi. I let dealer do the 1st oil/filter change. I have NEVER done that before but I was on furlough so figured had the time & why not have them do the grunt work i.e. tire rotation.
     
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    I went with the short nipple (F133S). There is no directional change with the way the oil drains. You could change the direction of the flow with F103SX if that interests you.

    I haven't had to use a drain tube on mine because I take off the stock skid plate. If you have an aftermarket skid plate with one of those small, removable windows I could see using a drain tube or getting F103SX.
     
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    I bought this same valve for my 4R and it was the best purchase yet. Makes life super easy!! I would highly recommend this for any car/truck really if you are doing your own oil changes.
     
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  12. Mar 9, 2021 at 7:55 AM
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    I saw on a video that the guy brought up the point that W/the Fumoto in you leave about an 1" oil. I wonder how much that amounts too?
     
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    How thick is the oil pan at the drain? I would assume it's about 3/16" (0.19 inch) if it's steel. I measure 0.45 inch from the end of my Fumoto's threads to where it sits flush at the pan, which doesn't account for the crush washer. I would guess it probably sticks up about 1/4 of an inch above the bottom of the oil pan. It looks like the pan at the bottom is roughly 12" by 4", so that would be approximately 0.2 quarts of old oil remaining in the pan if my estimates are correct. That's nothing to worry about considering there will be almost a full quart of old oil remaining in the engine even if you remove the drain plug and replace the oil filter. It couldn't hurt to remove the Fumoto every now and then to drain any residual crud at the bottom.
     
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    I'm curious as to why you say there's almost a full quart of oil left even when drain plug & filter removed? Where do you suppose this is?:notsure: Because after I drain pan & R&R filter, ad 6.5qts of new oil on the dip stick it shows exactly at full level mark.
     
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    Also curious, with the valve in, does it drain the little metal shavings, or they get stuck around the valve ? Like, does the valve come up a bit and it won’t allow the oil to fully drain ? If I have to take it off, then what’s the point of having it in the first place ?
     
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    I'm not knocking the valve.:hattip: It started with me looking to buy gaskets for next oil change, then the Fumoto popped up & I was just curious about it. Then I saw the one you tube video & the guy brought up that if you're someone who worries about old oil left in that the threaded portion doesn't completely let all the oil drain. I'm on the fence on whether I'll put one in or just keep OEM plug, hell W/my commute 10k will be awhile, Yes I go the OEM recommendations on the intervals. Not gonna change @ 5k .
     
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    I pulled this from the 2019 Toyota Repair Manual. I don't think this engine is unique in this regard.[​IMG]
     
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    Fumoto claims on their FAQ page that the threads should be flush with the bottom of the pan on most vehicles. I'll try to measure and verify it when I do my next change.
     
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    All righty then, question answered :hattip:Thank you
     
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    My pleasure! I suppose it could be worse right? I hear Bugatti charges something like $25k for an oil change because they have to take the entire engine apart to get out all the old oil.
     
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    That's what i found when i looked into them. Part number specific.
     
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    Wouldn`t easier/cost effective just to run oil through until you saw clean oil coming out??Flush it???
     
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    I love mine. Fits under the stock skid so no chance of damage. Got clear plastic tubing from Lowe’s, which slows the drain a bit but makes it super clean to run directly inside the pan. Easy peasy.
     
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    Just installed yesterday on my 2021 with RCI aluminum skid plates, I flushed 3/4 quart through the valve to test. The hole in the skid plate is more than big enough to not make a mess, works great, well next time I will enjoy it.
     
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