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Falcon 2" lift/level vs OME 3", 275 vs 285

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by big_slacker, Jul 27, 2019.

  1. Jul 27, 2019 at 8:04 AM
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    Hi all! For my first post I have a fairly specific lift/wheel/tire question I'm kicking around. I've got a '19 4runner ORP with KDSS. I've wheeled it stock a few times on my local trails and even on pretty mild stuff I'm scraping skidplate especially going downhill (the front dive on these things is hilariously pronounced). This rig was never gonna stay stock long anyway so I figure lift/wheels/tires is up first.

    Before I start, the purpose of my build will be a mildly modded daily driver/outdoor gear hauler. I also plan on towing an R-POD for family camping trips. Called up my local offroad shop and they suggested 3" OME/bilsteins + total chaos UCAs and either 275/70r17 or 285/70r17 depending on preference. BMC will be done.

    When I mentioned towing though they said another option was the Falcon 2" tow/haul lift which has a switch on the rear shocks to firm them up for towing. No UCAs needed for the 2" lift, just alignment. They also said that 275's might be a better idea for towing with stock gearing. They of course would be happy to re-gear for me as well. I'm a little worried the 2" lift + 275s might not be enough on the trails, but maybe I'm mistaking the front end dive downhill scraping I did the other day for clearance problems.

    Thoughts? If you're super low attention span the options are:

    OME 3" lift + 275/70r17 or 285/70r17
    Falcon 2" lift (tow mode switch) + 275/70r17 or 285/70r17

    Also, pic of the bone stock rig on one of our awesome PacNW trails!

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  2. Jul 27, 2019 at 10:26 AM
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  3. Jul 27, 2019 at 10:58 AM
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    When you put a better shock on, your nose dive will be dramatically reduced and you shouldn't really need to worry about either of the tire sizes you mention unless you're doing some crazy articulations.

    You can easily get away with a 2" lift, 285's, no body mount chop, and perhaps not even UCA's. Just keep your stock wheels (or stock wheel specs), align it with the caster being pushed somewhere close to 4*, some have to slightly trim their front fender and push their fender liner forward (extremely easy), and you'll be good to go.

    As far as re-gearing with 285's, it's not really necessary. Just don't get a really heavy E-rated tire and you should be ok. Lot's of people around here with 285's and very few have re-geared.
     
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  4. Jul 27, 2019 at 1:04 PM
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    Thanks for the info. About the re-gear, that would be for towing more than just regular driving and wheeling. I play in the cascades and pretty much all road trips are to the mountains whether the sierras, rockies, etc. I haven't towed with the 4runner yet but I'm guessing it's gonna suck a bit stock. :D
     
  5. Jul 27, 2019 at 1:10 PM
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    I have bilstein 2.5” lift w/ Camburg UCA and ordered 17x9 0 offset w/ 5” backspacing.

    Curious if I’m gonna rub with 285s
     
  6. Jul 27, 2019 at 1:28 PM
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    If you're towing and traveling in mountainous terrain, then yes, a re-gear with 285's might be something to consider. But if you end up going with 285's, I would try driving and towing with it first before actually re-gearing. You may find that it does alright if you shop around and get a light weight 285 and pair it with something like the Sprint Booster. A lot of people like the increase you get in throttle response from the Sprint Booster (it doesn't do anything to increase actual horse power or torque).

    But your truck would also look fine with a 2" lift and 275s with no need to re-gear.
     
  7. Jul 27, 2019 at 1:51 PM
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    I know that the stock wheel backspacing is 4.5", so you might be ok having 5" of backspacing.

    The stock offset ranges from +4 on the Pro wheels to +15 on the SR5 wheels. Having 0 offset will push your wheels out a bit further and that is a big reason why people tend to rub. Will 0 offset rub with 285's? I don't know exactly, but if I had to guess, I would guess that it would.

    Also stock wheels vary from 7" - 7.5", so having a 9" wide wheel could be a factor as well, but I'm not positive.

    I would also guess that you will most likely need to do one (or potentially all 3) of the following:

    1) the fender liner mod
    2) mudflap trimming/modifying/removal
    3)body mount chop
     

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