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Driver side A pillar grab handle.

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by Jimmycue, Sep 15, 2019.

  1. Jan 29, 2023 at 5:41 PM
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    See post 64 in this thread for installation details.
     
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  2. Apr 1, 2023 at 10:21 AM
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    Does the FJ Cruiser handle over the door interfere with rotating the sun visor against the driver's door window?
     
  3. Apr 1, 2023 at 1:55 PM
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    No. The visor tucks behind the grab handle. Although it looks from these pictures that the handle is pushing the visor down at an angle, it isn’t. The visor hangs at that angle naturally.

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    Excellent, thanks!
     
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  5. Apr 16, 2023 at 5:51 PM
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    Finally got decent weather and was able to modify Jason's bracket to work with the KTJO handle and pillar cover. Turned out fine, looks just like the passenger side and is the same color.
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    The raised handle mounting points give about 3/8" more room for your fingers when grabbing the handle. It actually feels more sturdy and secure than the oem passenger side grab handle.

    Another upshot of all this is I now have a modified oem a-pillar cover and grab handle available if anyone is interested to doing the original modification using Jason's bracket with the oem parts. Would save you all the modifications, you'd just have to mount the bracket per Jason's instructions, then mount everything else as is.
     
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  6. May 26, 2023 at 1:38 PM
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    What modifications did you make for them to work together. I might be sold on combining that bracket with the KTJO setup if it's not too difficult.
     
  7. May 26, 2023 at 8:57 PM
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    Can you share with me the part number for the FJ Cruiser grab handle please? And/or what year FJ it's from?
     
  8. May 26, 2023 at 9:50 PM
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    If you get the bracket from Jason and the KTJO kit with the handle and A-pillar trim at the same time, no modifications to either are necessary. You can locate the bracket using the spacing on the handle, mount it to the A-pillar frame, then mount the trim cover and handle. The only reason I had to modify the bracket a bit was because I mounted it using the oem grab handle, and the spacing was off with the KTJO handle just enough I couldn't get the lower bolt started - close, but no cigar. Using both products at the same time should allow a successful installation of both. @Brandonium did it quite successfully using both. You'll find more about his installation on the other 4R site.

    I almost just left the oem handle as it was, but wanted it to match the passenger side, so I took up the project again earlier this year.
     
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  10. May 27, 2023 at 6:18 AM
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    Just a question somewhat related - has anyone ever needed to remove the passenger side A-pillar trim cover (running wiring, etc.) and has seen what the lower grab handle mounting setup is on that side?
     
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    Since it's recommended to disconnect the battery to prevent getting punched in the face by an airbag, are there any systems that need to be reset or reconfigured afterward? TSS? TPMS? Over-the-air services? Other infotainment?
     
  12. May 27, 2023 at 6:10 PM
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    Where do we order a bracket from Jason? Appreciate any insight.
     
  13. May 27, 2023 at 6:21 PM
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    It's in the first post on this thread. I ordered one today.
     
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    My parts kit from KTJO arrived today. It was very well packaged, containing all parts and tools. The color and texture match are excellent, the edges are clean, and there are no mars or flaws in the molding. In what might have been a recent design change, there's a thin foam strip on the top of the A-pillar trim.

    I should receive Jason's bracket soon to enable the next step. I think the first thing I do after popping the trim off is to see if I can put it back on without doing any other changes. It's probably only good for a small number of on-off cycles, but using one for practice will enhance my peace of mind.
     
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  15. Jun 1, 2023 at 9:30 PM
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    My KTJO pillar trim piece also had that thin foam strip on the back side of the top edge. Doesn't do anything. What would be more useful is if you put a foam strip behind the bottom edge of the headliner in that spot, to move it out a touch. Then, when you put the trim piece on, it will be snug up against the headliner fabric. The thin foam strip on the pillar trim will somewhat prevent it from being snug.
     
  16. Jun 1, 2023 at 9:53 PM
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    Thanks, I wondered if it would take the place of the recommended foam under the headliner.

    The tooling for this must have cost a fortune, especially the injection molds.
     
  17. Jun 1, 2023 at 10:06 PM
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    One other tip that I saw elsewhere, and it came in handy when I put on the KTJO A-pillar trim - on the back side of the top, there is a plastic tab that protrudes out (circled in red below), and is supposed to fit into a plastic clip on the A-pillar :

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    Do yourself a big favor and just snip that whole tab off. For some reason, it just doesn't fit into that clip very well, and when you tighten down the upper bolt, it will cause a bulge and a white spot to appear. The upper part of the trim piece is held in place and located by the upper bolt, so that tab does nothing but get in the way. Just trim it off flush with the back of the trim piece. You'll thank me later.
     
  18. Jun 1, 2023 at 10:24 PM
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    That seems like the way to go. The instructions on her website also include that suggestion, and they mention the discoloration caused by not getting it into the clip. I'll have some more questions when Jason's bracket arrives. Will the trim piece clear it without digging out a rectangle in back as on the OEM? Locating the bracket precisely and getting the screws started are other points of concern.
     
  19. Jun 1, 2023 at 10:38 PM
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    The KTJO trim piece will fit fine over Jason's bracket, since it doesn't have any of that extra black plastic on the back side, which is what you have to remove a square of on the oem trim piece. The challenge is going to be lining up Jason's bracket to mount so it works with the KTJO trim piece bottom bolt hole. One idea I had, which I didn't get to try out as I had previously mounted Jason's bracket per the oem grab handle instructions, is to attach Jason's bracket to the bottom hole of the KTJO trim piece with a bolt and nut. Then put some substantial double sided tape, like what is used on those Pro grilles to mount the new center cover, on the back of the feet (the A-pillar side) of Jason's bracket. Then put the trim piece on as if installing it for good, even putting in the top bolt to line that up. I figured you could then press on the bottom bracket hard enough that it may just stay in place with the double sided tape. Remove the bottom bolt and nut, take off the trim piece and hopefully the bracket will remain where you pressed on it. That, in theory, will give you the perfect way to mark the holes to drill in the A-pillar for the bracket mounting holes, all lined up with the KTJO bottom bolt hole. It all sounds good on paper...:cool:
     
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  20. Jun 1, 2023 at 11:03 PM
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    Something like that ought to work. Was drilling the holes very tricky? I'm thinking about whether the drill will be at an awkward angle where the windshield is in the way, or the A-pillar is hard and the bit wants to skitter around.
     
  21. Jun 2, 2023 at 6:43 AM
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    I don't remember the drilling being much of a challenge, but it's been a while. If you look at the 2nd photo in post #9, of the mounted bracket, you can see there's plenty of room to get a drill in there.
     
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    Like glwood54 said, there's plenty of room to get the drill in there. To prevent the drill bit from walking when you drill the hole, you will want to create an indentation at each drill hole location with a center punch like this one (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08KGF7ZFQ?ie=UTF8) before you start drilling.
     
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    Yeah, I hope to use a center punch, but I'll have to see what the angle is like after removing the garnish. I have some trepidation about swinging a hammer back toward the windshield.
     
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    I would have some trepidation about swinging a hammer toward the windshield, but with an automatic center punch like the one I linked above, there's no hammer swinging involved. You just put the point of the punch on the exact drill hole location on the A pillar, push on the punch, and the automatic mechanism inside the punch provides the strike that creates the dimple.
     
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    I have all the parts in hand now and I'm thinking about doing almost exactly what you describe. I'll know for sure when I pull off the OEM garnish. A simpler alternative might be lining up Jason's bracket with the hole where the KTJO rivnut would go, but that could entail eyeballing the mounting bolt's 3-D angle. Your approach avoids that risk using the parts themselves to get the angle right, as long I can get through steps without anything shifting placement and orientation. I'm setting it aside for a bit while I build my sleeping platform.
     
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    Yeah, the challenge is to get the bracket lined up correctly to drill the mounting holes so it lines up with the A-pillar cover bolt hole. You could just eyeball the bracket, stick it to the A-pillar, mount the cover, then see if it lines up. If not, you'll know which way to move it to line it up before you do any drilling.
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Resurrecting this thread to see if someone that has installed the KTJO handle along with Jason's bracket can answer a question for me. As others have noted, drilling for the bracket is the tricky part so I have an idea that might make this easier. My idea is to install the KTJO rivnut in the A-pillar as intended, then insert the KTJO bolt and spacer through Jason's bracket and into the installed rivnut to hold the bracket in (hopefully) the correct alignment for marking the drill points. Then, remove the KTJO bolt and spacer, drill the holes, install Jason's bracket, and install the plastic KTJO trim piece and handle using the bolt that came with the bracket. Any thoughts, etc. as to whether this would work to help guarantee correct alignment of Jason's bracket with the plastic KTJO trim piece? I have the parts so I will be doing this mod soon on my new ORP and want to simplify, and foolproof, the install as much as possible.
     
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