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**CLOSED**Group buy - Northstar Deep Cycle Batteries**

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (2010+)' started by ramonortiz55, Dec 3, 2015.

  1. Dec 3, 2015 at 8:34 AM
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    ramonortiz55

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    **ends April 20th, 2016**

    A few of the guys on T4R.org have requested me to do this again, figured id post it on here and see if anyone needs one.

    If the group size you want isn't available, please put your request in!

    Here we go guys!

    Northstar battery group buy!

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    This one took me forever to get started. I tried contacting Excide, they expressed NO interest in this. I contacted Optima and they pretty much ignored my constant requests for a discount. I couldn't get a vendor to provide discounts on Odyssey.

    Northstar, on the other hand replied and directed me to a distributor that's more than willing to work with me with this one.

    For those that are only familiar with Optima, here is a little more information from Northstar:

    http://www.northstarbattery.com/1/2/3.php

    Here are the group sizes PER Toyota's website:

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    Group size sizing:

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    The groups sizes that will be included in this group buy are:

    24, 24M, 24F, 27, 27F, 34/78, 31M and 35

    See more here:

    http://buy.northstarbattery.com/

    Please make sure to do your research here:

    http://www.northstarbattery.com/northstar/engine/literature.php

    and here:

    http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/154-1303-battery-bashing/

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    So what is the discount?

    1-10 batteries ordered, regardless of type:

    24F/24 MAP of $299 - $24 off
    24M MAP of $314.99 - $24 off
    27F/27 MAP of $339 - $24 off
    35 MAP of $269 - $19 off
    31M MAP of $379 - $39 off
    34/78 MAP of $299 - $24 off

    11-20 batteries ordered, regardless of type:

    24F/24 MAP of $299 - $34 off
    24M MAP of $314.99 - $34 off
    27F/27 MAP of $339 - $39 off
    35 MAP of $269 - $34 off
    31M MAP of $379 - $64 off
    34/78 MAP of $299 - $34 off

    21+ batteries ordered, regardless of type:

    24F/24 MAP of $299 - $50 off
    24M MAP of $314.99 - $50 off
    27F/27 MAP of $339 - $51 off
    35 MAP of $269 - $45 off
    31M MAP of $379 - $74 off
    34/78 MAP of $299 - $50 off

    We don't need to achieve every tier level for every battery group. The tier level is per quantity, regardless of how many batteries per group get ordered.

    So if there is a total of 16 people signed up (ASSume, one battery per person), your discount is:

    24F/24 MAP of $299 - $34 off
    27F/27 MAP of $339 - $39 off
    35 MAP of $269 - $34 off

    FREE SHIPPING TO CONUS and HAWAII (ALASKA AND CANADA - pending) for ALL TIER LEVELS

    How do I sign up? Here!

    If you are interested in this:

    Sign up by replying to this thread. Don’t chicken out. You are either in or you aren’t. NO maybe, no waiting on the wife, gf or bf to get permission. There is enough time to make up your mind or find a doctor to sell your kidney or pawn your wife’s jewelry. If you are on the fence to see if it’ll go up to max discount before you jump in, you are HOLDING the group buy back. Don’t be that dude.
     
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  2. Dec 3, 2015 at 9:19 PM
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    List:

    1. @kbraunphoto - 27F
    2. @crabslayer
    3. @J053619
    4. @TonyDobbs - 31M
    5. @MYT4CO - 31M - PAID
    6. @MYT4CO - 31M - PAID
    7. @Hawk373 - 31M - PAID
    8. hamburgerpimp (T4R.org) - 27F - PAID
    9. @lonewolf1911 - 35M
    10. @scocar - 24M - PAID
    11. Royal 7 (T4R.org) - 27M
    12. Royal 7 (T4R.org) - 24M
    13. @JD'STaco - 27F - PAID
    14. riceandpho (T4R.org) - 31M - PAID
    15. riceandpho (T4R.org) - 31M - PAID
    16. @KeptOnChooglin - 24F - PAID
    17. @TACMEDIC (AA)- 34/78 - PAID
    18. @TACMEDIC (AA)- 34/78 - PAID
    19. smkymntn (T4R.org) - 31M
    20. @Sandman614 - 27F
    21. davester00 (T4R.org) - 27F
    22. Mark3406e (T4R.org) - 31M - PAID
    23. @cme4lyt - 31M - PAID
    24. @cme4lyt - 27F or 27M - PAID
    25. bigvo9 (T4R.org) - 31M
    26. @Blackouts - 34 - PAID
    27. @Blackouts - 34 - PAID
    28. mgosts (T4R.org) - 31M - PAID
    29. @Silver02Taco - 24F - PAID
    30. @sawbladeduller - 35 - PAID
    31. @Gridikal - 31M - PAID
    32. @BudMan - 27F - PAID
    33. @zidaro - 27F
    34. snowboardwcu (T4R.org) - 31M
    35. @chmura - 31M
    36. @KeptOnChooglin - 24F - PAID
     
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  3. Dec 6, 2015 at 8:02 PM
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    A few things here and there. Still dreaming up stuff
    Too bad I just bought a new Odyssey. You don't have the one i needed anyhow. I got the 34 Deep Cycle Marine for my rig.

    This is it, the winch doesn't even phase it.

    Blue
     
  4. Dec 6, 2015 at 8:05 PM
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    Vendor has agreed to make any group size available for the group buy.

    If anyone is interested in another group size not listed, let me know.
     
  5. Dec 6, 2015 at 8:06 PM
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    A few things here and there. Still dreaming up stuff
    That's BA!
     
  6. Dec 6, 2015 at 8:06 PM
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    buy another one :D
     
  7. Dec 6, 2015 at 8:08 PM
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    Dude I have three now. LOL
     
  8. Dec 6, 2015 at 8:13 PM
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    I'm getting all the stuff to run Duel Next. That other one is on the 99 Runner.

    Blue
     
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  9. Dec 18, 2015 at 9:51 PM
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    I am not in need of a battery but have just bought a 2004 runner v6. Tell me about Northstar. Thanks. New owner.
     
  10. Dec 18, 2015 at 10:07 PM
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    here is what a few people had to say:
     
  11. Dec 18, 2015 at 10:08 PM
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    For anyone wondering about these batteries, a few guys on T4R use them:

    Originally Posted by pjbrownva viewpost_540f2e77e93e21039affc4306a975c4756a05de1.gif
    The Northstar batteries in the group buy, and also Odyssey batteries are an exception to this general rule. Both of these are closer to military grade batteries.

    They use a high-quality, purer lead, and many thin cells with the "AGM" (absorbent glass mat -- I believe) materials between the plates.

    Then they take this multi-layered "sandwich" of sorts, and compress it to fit in a much smaller the space.

    The results are really good....

    The batteries are very dense. The Odyssey batteries that I own weigh almost twice as much as similarly sized lead-acid batteries!

    The have a large surface area for the plates (which means they can deliver very high current loads), and because of the materials and their structure, they handle deep discharge and recycling very well with minimal distortion to the cell structure and minimal sulfication or other problems with deposits.

    The batteries also tend to have a longer service life if properly maintained.

    They also have a very low self-discharge rate. For example, a new Odyssey battery at 100% charge can be left sitting unconnected for 2 years, and will still
    have about 80% of its charge.

    I'm sure that the stats are similar for the Northstar batteries. You should consider Northstar batteries essentially the same as Odyssey... (although the ARE different companies).

    So with these batteries, imho, all you get are benefits. There are no negatives.
    They serve equally well as starting and deep cycle batteries (despite the fact that many "lesser" batteries need to be designed for one use or the other, but can't and don't do well at both), they offer a substantially lower self-discharge rate, and they offer the promise of a longer service life.

    So, what are the negatives? Only two that I'm aware of... and they both depend on perspective:

    1) They are expensive. You can pay much less for a battery.
    2) They are heavy. If weight is a concern. These batteries are heavy.
    on the flip side, if weight is a concern, you may be able to buy a
    smaller than recommended battery, save on space and weight, and
    still get acceptable performance.

    I hope this answers your question @ .

    The batteries in this group buy (and a few similarly made batteries) truly are exceptional, and the standard rules and logic about most batteries don't apply to these. With that said. They still are batteries... meaning, if you buy one of these batteries that is rated at 135 amp-hr reserve capacity... that is about the reserve capacity that you will get, and it will die and need to be recharged after you have used up that capacity.

    You won't magically find that you somehow get twice that reserve capacity.

    How do I know... let's just say that once I ran too many accessories on my boat for too long, thinking that I had "super batteries" on board, so I was invincible!

    When the batteries were dead, and I had to scramble to get the boat started, I realized that they are still batteries. Very, very good batteries, but none the less, they don't bestow magical powers that mean they can't be run down.

    On the other hand, at the end of the season, I make sure they are charged, turn of the battery switches, and in the spring I'm fine. All batteries have a good charge, and I am good to go. No need for a trickle charge or to periodically recharge them during storage.

    I *might* be better to take them indoors over the winter, but I don't bother. They're too heavy to deal with!

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    Good luck to anyone who signs up.

    I don't need batteries, but I thought I would share my knowledge and experience with these types of batteries.

    I have these (or similar technology... but different brands) in all of my toys.
    My 4Runner, my wife's Benz, my convertible, and THREE of them in my boat (2 for house batteries, and 1 for a starting battery).

    After more than 8+ years of experience with these, I am 100% completely sold that this is the best way to go. You may (or may not) save money over the long haul when compared to buying cheaper and regular lead-acid batteries.

    But, you WILL get better performance out of these, and you WON'T have as many problems of them dying, needing to be recharged or be replaced as frequently.

    As for Optima batteries. I had one Red Top, and it was good, but it didn't last as long as these other types of batteries lasted. I have heard rumors that not all optima batteries are the same. That some sold at some discount chains are actually made with cheaper materials and weigh much less. I don't know if the rumors are true. My Optima experience was good... but these "super batteries" as I'll call them here, are better.

    -Phil
     
  12. Dec 18, 2015 at 10:08 PM
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    Originally Posted by pjbrownva viewpost_540f2e77e93e21039affc4306a975c4756a05de1.gif
    Also, here's a very detailed and informative video about how Odyssey batteries
    are made and what is different about these type of AGM batteries.

    Each battery is made of many 99.99% pure led plates that are 1mm thick and perforated to create a very dense, very high surface area battery.

    I'm including this video in SUPPORT of the group buy. Northstar batteries should be just as good if not better than Odyssey batteries. Northstar was started by former Odyssey insiders.

    So while I don't know the specifics in the differences between the two brands, as a consumer, you should really consider the two brands as equivalent.

    These are definitely the best available.

    -Philip

    P.S. -- I have no dog in this fight... so to speak. I don't need any batteries now, and I don't get anything from the group buy. I just thought I'd help share this
    info with other members on the forum.
     
  13. Mar 18, 2016 at 3:04 PM
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    sign up :)
     
  14. Mar 18, 2016 at 3:10 PM
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    @Ol'Blue can we add this to the group buy banner on the right of the portal screen? :)
     
  15. Mar 18, 2016 at 3:34 PM
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    Let me get home tonight and see what I can do, if I can't do it I'll get with Bob....
     
  16. Mar 18, 2016 at 4:44 PM
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    Thanks Blue
     
  17. Apr 6, 2016 at 12:26 PM
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    Guys, List has been updated.

    The vendor and I have discussed, due to the large amount of interested people, he will start accepting payments on Monday or Tuesday of next week.

    The order will be turned into Northstar as a WHOLE on Friday the 15th of April. Everyone will have about 4 days to make payments, this is plenty of time!
     
  18. Apr 11, 2016 at 6:47 AM
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    Purchasing starts tomorrow and will need to be finalized by Friday around noon.

    Vendor lives in the same town as the Northstar factory - He will submit the order to Northstar on Friday.

    The following week, Northstar will slap all the batteries on a pallet and the vendor will pick up.

    Batteries will then start shipping.

    It is not too late to join
     
  19. Apr 14, 2016 at 9:36 AM
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    updated list for those who have paid
     
  20. Apr 19, 2016 at 8:30 AM
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    This group buy is now closed
     
  21. Apr 29, 2016 at 5:52 PM
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    I asked for an update this morning.

    I received this:

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