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Black Bear Pass and Alpine Loop

Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by RedRunner87, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. Sep 2, 2017 at 10:27 AM
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    RedRunner87

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    This trip started out featuring 3 vehicles; 17 DCB TRD OR Taco, 97 Limited 4Runner and a 01 Disco II. The Disco dropped out before the trip, so we started off by heading out to Black Canyon National, then off to Black Bear Pass and knocked out the Alpine Loop.

    The Start
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    A few hours later we finally got to Black Canyon National Park where we would stay for the night.

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    It was at this point we lost my 97 4Runner. It for some reason stalled out and wouldn't restart. We tow strapped it up to the visiting center, and the Park Ranger allowed us to park it there for a few days. The next morning we left the 4Runner behind and started towards Black Bear Pass in the stock Taco.

    Time to air down

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    Stopped to do some poser shots and get some drone footage

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    At the top- 12,840ft

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    Time to start heading towards the switchbacks. We did this trail in my 4Runner last year, and being lifted/locked made us spoiled. The trail is much more difficult being stock and having a longer wheel base.

    My buddy let me take over driving duties, here is spotting me down

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    A nice view of Telluride down below

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    We hit the point of no return with the Taco. Right before this point a guy in a 2 door Wrangler Rubicon asked if we were going to take "that" down the switchbacks. Our response was "Hell yeah"!

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    Time to start

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    Down we go!

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    Made it!

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    A stock Tacoma will make it down Black Bear Pass. We did scrape the skid plates a few times, as well as hit the trailer hitch a few times. We had 2 kind of cringe worthy moments when the stock Goodyear Kevlar tires didn't quite grip the rocks like we wanted to.
     
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  2. Sep 3, 2017 at 9:42 AM
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    TedRCASC

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    :canada:Great photos, but not the kind of trail I'd want to take in our 4R. That's for braver men than this 84 year old codger! - Cheers, Ted
     
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  3. Sep 4, 2017 at 8:46 AM
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    It is a beautiful area. Honestly my 4Runner made easy work of Black Bear last year. The Taco made it much more difficult
     
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  4. Sep 4, 2017 at 8:46 AM
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    Off to do the Alpine Loop. We started at Mineral Creek then to Engineer Pass to Cinnamon Pass/Wager Gulch to California Gulch to Corkscrew Gulch/Hurricane Pass

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    We didn't get any pictures of Mineral Creek. The trail was pretty brutal on the stock Tacoma, so we spent almost all our time spotting and rock crawling.

    These pictures were past Mineral Creek and going up Engineer Pass

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    At the top of Engineer Pass

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    Once we were on Cinnamon Pass we took the side trail Wager Gulch and went to the Carson Ghost Town.

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  5. Sep 4, 2017 at 10:41 AM
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    :canada:More great photos. Thanks again - Ted
     
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  6. Sep 4, 2017 at 11:10 AM
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    Thanks. I still have the last half to post. You can also check out last years run with my 4Runner. Should be somewhere around here
     
  7. Sep 5, 2017 at 10:00 AM
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  8. Sep 5, 2017 at 10:09 AM
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    After that we headed home and I picked up my Ram, and a car hauler.

    Good news got to play with my winch for the first time!
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    all loaded up and heading home

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    Not how I wanted to leave the National Park

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  9. Sep 7, 2017 at 7:57 AM
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    • :canada:Yeah, that is a very sad ending to a great adventure. Sure hope it is nothing serious. Cheers, Ted
     
  10. Sep 7, 2017 at 8:09 AM
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    Thankfully just my starter
     
  11. Sep 7, 2017 at 8:12 AM
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  12. Sep 8, 2017 at 10:11 AM
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    Why did the 4Runner die? Did I see a stock Ford Escape in one of those photos??
     
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  13. Sep 8, 2017 at 10:17 AM
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    I had two issues and we solved one. The starter went out which is why it wouldn't start. We didn't figure out why it was bucking and stalled.

    If there was a stock Escape it was probably on Cinnamon Pass. It was a pretty easy trail for the most part.
     
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    Haha...anything called "Cinnamon Pass" is probably an easy trail. Love the pics thanks for sharing!
     
  15. Sep 11, 2020 at 12:59 PM
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    I have an all-stock, 5th gen, 4R TRD OR and I don’t know if I should get all terrain tires for a trip out there. I was going to do Ophir Pass with my dad (he has a souped up FJ, but I don’t quite trust his spotting haha). Think I need tires? I was waiting until I saved up for a lift...
     
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  16. Sep 11, 2020 at 1:46 PM
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    You could do Ophir Pass in a Subaru. You'll be fine.
     
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    What @glwood54 said. Ophir isn't bad at all. We did Black Bear in a completely stock Tacoma Off-Road and it handled everything.
     
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    Like driving through the "gumdrop forest " in the Candy Land game.......
    I wouldn't take a ford escape down a steep driveway.....nevermind any serious trails. Those things are cheaply built.
     
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    I just wanted @sof92 to see what to expect.

    It is an interesting route to take if you're going from Silverton to Telluride and want to get there over a mountain instead of around it.
     
  22. Sep 13, 2020 at 6:04 AM
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    I agree with that
     
  23. Sep 13, 2020 at 6:50 AM
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    Too bad, for sure. The worst thing about breakdowns on older vehicles is that it makes you doubt them. After you fix it, for peace of mind, give it a thorough once over and change anything doubtful. It’s a nice rig and worth the investment of time and maybe some extra new parts. There’s knowns and unknowns. All you can do is make sure that all the knowns are covered off. Good luck, it looks like there’s lots of good off road miles still to go!
     
  24. Oct 18, 2020 at 7:59 PM
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    Unfortunately I had to sell her a couple years ago. I am making a comeback with a 5th gen. But I miss the ol girl a lot
     
  25. Oct 19, 2020 at 12:11 PM
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    Beautiful photos thanks for sharing. That looked like a nice trip
     
  26. Oct 19, 2020 at 1:54 PM
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    It was awesome! Bummed I haven't been down there in a couple years. Hopefully next summer!
     
  27. Oct 22, 2020 at 7:29 AM
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    yea I ended up not doing it and hiking Mt. Sneffels instead (incredible!). But I’ll probably go back and pick another trail to drive.
     
  28. Oct 22, 2020 at 3:27 PM
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    What trials did you end up running while you were there?
     

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