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Bilstein 6112/5100 - purchased

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Barcelona Trail, May 24, 2019.

  1. May 24, 2019 at 8:40 PM
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    After a year of deliberation (having leaned toward Dobinson and then Eibach) last night I purchased (from 4WP) the Bilstein 6112s & 5100s (I originally had 5160s ordered, however I keep hearing about them leaking). My goal was to get level with a modest lift - ala the Pro. Now I'm likely going to go 2.5/1.5. I chose to pair the 5100s with the Bilstein B12 Special Rear Coils (1.5 lift).

    ** 4WP had the best advertised prices on parts AND I was able to use an additional 10% off coupon.

    6112 - $569
    5100 - $142 (for the pair)
    B12 (Special) Springs - $179

    It's clear that (for me) this particular Bilstein combo is the best of the above mentioned bunch. My rig is a DD which I most often drive on the expressway at higher speed so I'll be adding UCAs as well to ensure the ol girl behaves in her lane, though with this setup I'll be far more inclined to get it off-road.

    Gotta make a decision on rubber now - having changed my mind from JBA to a different (Built Right) UCA, I'll now likely go w 285 ATs - though I also like the 265 Copper STT Pros (31.9)
     
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  2. Aug 14, 2019 at 11:05 AM
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    Now that I've got the parts purchased I'm looking for a shop in SoCal, south of LA (4WP is pricey on labor). I'm familiar with 88 Rotors and Cali Raised. Any other suggestions?

    **I'll ask over in the Cali thread area as well
     
  3. Aug 14, 2019 at 11:08 AM
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    275 K02s are heavier than quite a few 285s, unless you require E load. The C load 285 K02s are 7lbs lighter than the 275 E load.

    I went with 275 K02s anyway on mine. I have the TRD Pro/SEMA wheels with the 6112/5160 combo. With caster of 3+, I rub on the front fender liner, but only at full crank in reverse, and only on the driver's side. My 6112s are assembled at 2" lift, and I put in the Wheelers/Eibach T13 1.5" springs in the back. Ride is great, I have zero complaints. One of my biggest worries was making the 4Runner too firm/rough, but it didn't at all. My setup, I've dropped about 1.1MPG (18.23 vs 17.16).

    Anyway, you asked about shops, and since I'm in CO, I don't have any info for you there! Good look with the install and enjoy your new suspension.
     
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    Thanks for the insight Huzer, much appreciated as it seems my truck will sit similarly to yours. Those load C 285 BFGs are at the top of my list - along with the Toyo Open Country. In the end, I'm more interested in the combination of on road (and Baja type) performance & aesthetics than the ability to air down and rock crawl.. but maybe that'll change.

    I'm in San Diego now, but I'll be returning to Summit County CO in November so ability in snow is important
     
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    i've heard the truck shop in miramar is good. i haven't personally used them, but several of my friends have.
     
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    I haven't heard this before.

    What is the reason JBA's won't work with 33's?
     
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    Given the high caster design there are limitations/requirements w respect to the rim - if the rim is not a negative offset, 33s will rub the JBAs. There are configurations that will work, however mine will not. I have zero offset rims (4.75" backspacing)
     
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    I see. Thank you.

    Since you are mostly driving on the street, I would give some consideration to a P-rated tire. It'll be a more comfortable ride and they are lighter. In my experience, they are a capable tire offroad as well.
     
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    Went over to the Truck Shop in Miramar (Thanks for the recommendation)

    First class shop! Toyota/Lexus specific - a dozen lifted Tacos, 4Rs, and Land Cruisers in the parking lot. Mad impressed. Also, they fab their own UCAs. Beefier than just about every commercially produced part I've seen. They earned my business. This is the type of shop I'd trust to perform a Cab Mount Chop

    Im not going to go with the JBA UCAs anymore... too many people offer less than glowing reviews

    I'm leaning toward The Truck Shop's in house fab'd UCA - they're calling them - Built Right. These are beefy as hell and will allow me to go w 285s and get the additional travel the 6112s allow
     
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  12. Aug 14, 2019 at 4:14 PM
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    Not sure if you have your heart set on the tires you mentioned above or not, but I would also recommend checking out the Firestone Destination A/T's. They come in a P285/70/17 and are fairly light at 47lbs per tire, so you're not going to feel a big difference in power when you switch from a stock tire.

    There's also a new Destination A/T2 coming out this month that has the 3 peak snow rating.

    I run the original A/T's on my truck and love the way they feel. They are a milder A/T, but mine is mostly a daily driver as well. Super smooth on the road in wet and dry conditions and have have performed well offroad as well. Haven't tried them in the snow yet, so can't comment on that.
     
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    Hell yeah, thanks Nimby. I'll check those out. At the moment the 285 BFG AT (C rating) have my attention, along with the 285 Toyo OC. Shopping for tires should be fun... it's not ha
     
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    Hey Nimby,

    I was researching this as and the destination AT's and Revo 3's are both 42lbs in 285. My Revo 3's are 40lbs in 265. So really its only a 2lb hit which is almost nothing. I was super surprised over this as it virtually does not add any rotating mass.
     
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    Yeah, you're right. 42lbs per tire according to the Firestone website. They have to be some of the lightest 285's on the market.

    I can feel a small difference jumping up from the 265 dunlops, but it wasn't bad at all. I was expecting a lot worse, to be honest. Probably due to all the reviews of people running heavier D and E rated 285's.
     
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