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Any 2023 TRD Pro owners running Eibach lift springs?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by UATahoe, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Jun 1, 2024 at 6:19 AM
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    Krup235

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    I really do like it. I was at overland west and talked to the Eibach rep about the set up and said although it sits pretty much level, the forum response is a 1.5” rear spring would have been better. Of course i got will take that back to R&D engineers. So we’ll see. They do sell the front springs only and you can do the Icon rear or use a Dobson .5 spacer for the rear. Myself I’m letting it ride for a while and just see.
     
  2. Jun 1, 2024 at 6:45 AM
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    I was thinking just adding the new springs to the front and keep the westcott in the rear. But I don’t want to change my UCA’s and they probably will put my caster numbers even worst than my Westcott is doing.
     
  3. Jun 1, 2024 at 7:18 AM
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    I wonder how the regular Eibach 1" rear springs (silver) differ from the 1" red versions that pair with the TRD Pro Fox shocks.
     
  4. Jun 2, 2024 at 6:37 AM
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    My concern is how high the front is with the new Eibach springs (Total of 3.5" from a stock 4R). Tinkerer's adventures talks about the sweet spot being 3" or under. I'm being redundant, but I really wish they stuck with the old measurements.
     
  5. Jun 2, 2024 at 7:02 AM
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    Eibach is probably not going to change anything so your only option to stay with the springs for the lift is what others have done. They used the 21-22 springs for the 1.4 front and 1 inch rear.
     
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  6. Jun 2, 2024 at 7:27 AM
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    michow87

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    I agree with them not changing anything. The best option IMO is the WD lift
     
  7. Jun 2, 2024 at 3:55 PM
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    + a small 3/8 top spacer for perfect height. :yes:
     
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    Eibach said they are the exact same, only difference is the color.
     
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  9. Jun 12, 2024 at 6:13 PM
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    Just wondering if anyone with a bumper and winch has installed the springs??
     
  10. Jun 12, 2024 at 8:49 PM
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    For those of you interested in a taller rear spring, Wheelers (made by Eibach) has a 2 options:

    T12: 200lbs/inch, 2.5 inch lift
    T13: 195lbs/inch, 1.5 inch lift
    Both are 15 inches in length

    For comparison, the Eibach rear spring is 206lbs/inch, 1 inch lift
    Not sure on length

    I’m thinking of using one of these for the rear. If I do the T13, I’ll probably add a 1/2 inch spacer. Maybe better to use the T12 since I have about 260lbs of added weight (rack, tent, sliders).
     
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  11. Jun 14, 2024 at 2:56 AM
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    For those of you with a 2023 or 2024 TRD Pro, which direction did you end up going? I am still on the fence.
     
  12. Jun 14, 2024 at 9:21 AM
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    I was personally leaning towards the WD lift. Then I watched this youtube video blindly comparing affordable shocks (including the westcott designs spacers) and now I'm not so sure. Per their blind test, they said the WD lift was worse than stock

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s271Ln-6QI&t=1969s
     
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    Very interesting video for sure. I wish I could find just a spring kit for my 2024 TRD Pro, that would give me a lift and keep the fox shocks, as I am very happy with the ride. Just need a little height and a little firmer.
     
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  14. Jun 14, 2024 at 10:39 AM
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    So the 21-22 Springs will work on the 24 TRD Pro? I thought the perches were different.
     
  15. Jun 14, 2024 at 10:42 AM
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    the perches are different. I wouldn't use the 21-22 on the 23-24 pro
     
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    I am guessing I won't see a spring kit for the 2023-2024, as I am sure they are focused on 2025.
     
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    I just watched the full video and I wonder if it would have been different on the TRD Pro with the Westcott lift? The Fox's are longer and softer. I thought I would be good to run the standard Westcott kit with 285's Toyo AT3, but Westcott told me I might need to remove my mud flaps. Not something I am interested in doing.
     
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    Yes :). Fixed. Long day in the office and Friday.
     
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    There are guys on Facebook running the 21-22 springs on the 23-24 Pro and no issues. Eibach changed the springs that they still work on the 23-24.
     
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    From looking at part numbers the 21-24 trd fox shocks are the same. Also the wd lift is the same for 21-24 so the perches are the same.

    I think eibach just designed their springs(more lift) for 23-24
     
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    I am even more confused, as I thought I recalled seeing a video of the differences. If they are the same, if would be nice if they just said the kit was for adding a winch/bumper in the front or something.
     
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    I just went w the new 2.5” Eibach front springs and Dobinson 2” rears w their Billet UCA on a 24 pro. Moved up to 285 KO3s and kept the stock fox shocks. I’m stoked on the outcome - no squat, no rub, good ride / performance

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    I wouldn't have thought Bilstein 5100s would've won that shootout. Impressive for the price.
     
  24. Jun 15, 2024 at 1:08 PM
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    Nice, I think those new K03 are 6lbs heavier in C load @ 65 lbs, how big a power loss did you notice? Did you put them on the original 7" wheels, any noticeable hump in the tread or does it look flat?
     
  25. Jun 15, 2024 at 1:50 PM
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    Love the look. This makes way more sense than the 1” rear Eibach springs. What other modifications did you have to do to fit the 285/70s? Did you need to move the front fender liner or remove the mud flaps?
     
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    I am guessing with the 2.5" springs in the front UCA's are needed.
     
  27. Jun 15, 2024 at 3:59 PM
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    Yea he mentioned having the Dobinson UCAs along w the 2” rear springs
     
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  28. Jun 16, 2024 at 6:07 AM
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    Originally it was 20.5” front and 22.5” rear whereas now it’s 23.25” front and 24.5” rear
     
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    May eventually upgrade the flaps but for now I haven’t done anything else
     
  30. Jun 16, 2024 at 6:15 AM
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    Yea, I put them on the original wheels. Tread looks flat and no noticeable power loss. Feels much more planted than the stock nitto’s
     
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