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Aftermarket ET Lug Nuts on Factory Spare Wheel

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by 1SilverRunner, Mar 18, 2024.

  1. Mar 18, 2024 at 11:52 AM
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    TLDR: Is it safe to use RRW's ET lug nuts on the factory spare wheel? My guess is no...
    The lug nuts I'm referring to are RRW's Hex closed end lug nuts (12x1.5 ET):

    https://www.relationsracewheels.com/collections/toyota-4runner/products/hex-closed-end-lug-nuts

    The reason I ask; Yesterday I was going down a muddy road and picked up a chunk of steel hidden in a puddle. Swapped to the spare in less than 15 minutes in the mud. When I was tightening my lugs I noticed there was very little surface contact between the lug nuts and the wheel itself. I was comfortable enough to limp the car home at low speeds.

    My intuition tells me I'll need to carry some factory lug nuts in the future.
    Looks like these lug nuts are specific to RRW's ET design. Can anyone confirm this?

    Here are some photos for reference.
    upload_2024-3-18_13-33-24.jpg

    From 37 to 0 PSI in no time.

    upload_2024-3-18_13-34-2.jpg

    3" gash in the tire.

    upload_2024-3-18_13-34-36.pngupload_2024-3-18_13-35-2.jpg

    Bottle Jack Buddy allowed me to safely jack up the rig from the rear axle. If you're lifted, buy a bottle jack buddy. You can thank me later.

    upload_2024-3-18_13-36-6.jpg
    Pizza cutter 255/80/17 installed with RRW lugs. Worked good enough to get me home.

    upload_2024-3-18_13-37-32.jpg

    Felt secure enough. No vibrations. Still, this felt a little sketchy because of the minimal contact between the lugs and the wheel. I will add 6 factory lug nuts to my jack/ tool compartment asap.

    Feel free to tell me how stupid it was to drive home with this. Genuinely would like to know.

    PS: I did contact RRW to see what they would say about the compatibility here. I imagine it will take a while for them to write back and say "You shouldn't do this"
     
  2. Mar 18, 2024 at 11:55 AM
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    Visually, they don't inspire confidence.
     
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  3. Mar 18, 2024 at 11:57 AM
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    Agreed. Glad this happened close to home not in the middle of a proper trail in a different state!
    :rofl:
     
  4. Mar 18, 2024 at 1:10 PM
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    Just picked up some Dorman m12-1.5 lug nuts. PN: 611-182.

    Swapping these out before I head to NTB.
    These will be staying in the rig from now on.
     
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  5. Mar 18, 2024 at 2:48 PM
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  6. Mar 19, 2024 at 11:44 AM
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    An entire brake pad was pulled out of the tire^

    Went ahead and replaced both rear tires with new Nitto Ridge Grapplers. Sticking with 285/70/17s for now... Although I was tempted to use the opportunity to upgrade to 34s...:bored:
     
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    RRW got back to me and said "They do not recommend this"

    Worked good enough to get me home... but I'll avoid this in the future.
    Stock style lugs will be in the glove box from now on.
    :tinfoilhat:
     
  8. Mar 19, 2024 at 12:51 PM
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    I keep 6 factory lugs (for the spare) with my jack. I went through the same thing your going through before.
     
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    I almost commented on that. WTF was a brake pad doing sticking up in the bottom of a puddle?
     
  10. Mar 19, 2024 at 2:00 PM
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    Right? I'm just that lucky I guess :facepalm:
     
  11. Mar 21, 2024 at 11:39 AM
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    I mentioned this to Dustin at FN Wheels and he agreed with carrying factory lugs in case the spare was needed

    Probably fell off a Jeep...
     

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