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After market suspension?

Discussion in '4th Gen 4Runners (2003-2009)' started by Kimbo, Apr 24, 2024.

  1. Apr 24, 2024 at 9:19 AM
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    My 2005 is in need of a suspension repair. Had a mechanic do the control arm and some other things but they said the dealer has to “charge” the struts or shocks? Went to the dealer and it’ll be $2800 to repair. He recommended we install an aftermarket system and that we’d be happier with that. Has anyone done this and what is recommended? Thank you!
     
  2. Apr 24, 2024 at 11:39 AM
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    I assume you have a model with the X-REAS suspension. From my limited knowledge of X-REAS, I would ditch it and put on all new shocks on all four corners.
     
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  3. Apr 24, 2024 at 11:56 AM
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    Thanks for your reply! Do you have any knowledge or advice on a certain brand? So many conflicting opinions.
     
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    4th gen - XREAS came on all SPORT models and some Limited models.

    XREAS is a closed system so it can't be serviced. Once it goes bad and starts leaking, you can replace with XREAS again for $$$$$ or you can replace with traditional shocks like Bilstein 5100 or something, which a much more affordable route everyone takes.

    When you replace, you can take the time to remove all the tube assemblies and center control absorbers, or leave everything on, except the shocks obviously.

    Many report XREAS going bad between 100k and 200k. Mine lasted about 120k.

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    The Bilstein is what I’ve been reading about. Seems the way to go. I didn’t realize we could leave everything on (besides shocks) that seems a bit easier. Thanks so much for your reply!
     
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    Mine was a lot more simple than fancy new stuffs :).

    Front: FJ Cruiser takeoffs
    Rear: New Moog Coils and new Rough Country OE Style shocks

    Nothing fancy but the ride improved big time since the old 180K suspension component were worn out.
     
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    “Deep” Satoshi grille | X-REAS delete / TRD Offroad front springs & Bilstein 4600 shocks + FJC rear springs | Weathertech front & rear mats | Tinted front windows | Floor Armor cargo mat | TPMS bypass | LED interior, tag, & reverse lights | BlueSea Systems console USB power ports | Gentex 453 autodim mirror w/Homelink & compass | Kenwood DDX373BT HU + Audiovox backup camera | Fumoto F-103S | Bazooka tube subwoofer | Kenwood speakers & KAC-M1804 amp | Philips H9/9011 headlight bulbs | Rexing V1 Gen3 dash cam | Map light mod | Breather mod | Off-road Nav Setup | Power Stop Z36 brakes | OBD Fusion diagnostics
    @Kimbo - You might find to be helpful. It chronicles not just my suspension “journey” from used Tacoma takeoffs to an all-new Eibach Stage 1 setup but also my reasoning and philosophy for doing things as I did. There are pics, info, and service manual file links for removing the X-REAS too.

    One thing about Bilstein - the 5100s are intended for trucks with extra weight (armor, bumpers, winches, etc.). Granted, ride is subjective but some people who don’t have extra weight sometimes feel the 5100’s ride is stiff. So consider 4600s if you go Bilstein.

    Good luck and let us know what you end up doing.
     
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  9. May 17, 2024 at 9:24 AM
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    Sorry for the delayed response. I appreciate all the advice. We decided to go with the Bilstein 5100. I’ve received the shipment and have an appointment with the mechanic to install them on Tuesday. I can’t wait to feel the ride, also got new tires a few days ago. Now to tackle my license plate that will NOT come off. I have a new one coming so we may have to drill new holes. Ugh. Always something. Thanks again, everyone.
     
  10. May 17, 2024 at 10:01 AM
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    Just curious if you’re open to sharing, how much is the installation running you?

    Also, be careful with the license plate. Hatch rust is a known issue on 4th Gens, typically manifesting as small, grainy surface blisters for lack of a better word (see pic). The problem though is inside, where Toyota applied an insulation or noise suppression pad before they added rust inhibitors. Result is water soaking the mat thing, leading to rust. Here's a and [​IMG]
     
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  11. May 17, 2024 at 10:30 AM
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    He said it would run$250-$350. Thanks for sharing that thread. That’s scary. We’ve tried every tip and trick on the internet to no avail so I hope it doesn’t cause issues. We plan to cut off the old bolt heads and maybe add a dab of something(?) to prevent leaks. The new plate will cover those and we were hoping to just use self tapping screws for the new one. Fingers crossed
     
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