5th gen Prices are f***ing out of hand

I probably could have held out a bit more, but I was more than happy to get $19,900 trade-in on my 2013 SR5 that had 130K on it. Considering I bought it for 30K 11 years earlier it just shows the 4Runners hold their value. Well, at least the 5th gen, too early to tell on the 6th.

 

Why all of the hating on the PRO'S? I love mine, I like the options that came with the 23 , it holds value better than any other model. And I went off roading the first weekend I had it just so it couldn't be called a pavement princess. You can get any model you want, swap out the suspension, spend tons of money, but in the end, it still isn't a PRO. Spend your money how you want, get what you like. I liked the options over every other model except the Limited, the PRO holds it's value better and is more fun to drive.

 

I don't think you read the link I posted. I posted "cumulative" greenhouse emissions. Right now, China and India being developing nations, do pollute higher.
https://www.wri.org/insights/interactive-chart-shows-changes-worlds-top-10-emitters

But asking them to pollute less now that US is developed is essentially asking them to do what I say not as I do. My point is all a sovereign nation has to do is point to historical, and cumulative numbers. They are polluting because they are still growing economies and it's cheaper for them to use fossil fuel. Exactly same thing that US did when it was in similar situation.

 

to each is their own, however, it’s been proven multiple times on here, the pro doesn’t hold its value better than other models, yes it’s worth more. But the pro costs more. From what I recall the pro and off road trims based on percentages, hold their values equally.


If I had know about the pros when I bought my 2017 taco, I would have gotten one. But when I shopped the runner, the pro didn’t make $$$ense. I got my ORP, which met my wants.

 

I'm in the market for a 2024 ORP, what prices is everyone seeing for these? Are dealerships offering discounts on these?

 

Those are super limited in number right now due to the change in models. I wouldn't hold out hope of a discount and would focus more on trying to find one that meets your needs, they are a dying breed right now.

 

I've priced out my whole kit and for what I would have paid for a new Pro, I have a full set of Greenlane aluminum skids and sliders, Bilstein 6112/6150 with lift springs all around, a Crestone rack, and I still have the budget to buy a pair of new third members and all the parts to do gears and a locker. Best part is my locker won't be tied to 4Lo either.

I get why some would buy a Pro but you can build a hell of a rig for that coin. It's not like the Tacoma side where only the OR and Pro got ATRAC/MTS (at least with the third gen)... every 4Runner is basically the same other than some trim pieces and things that can be easily added aftermarket.

 

There's a 2018, 48,000 miles. At my local dealer. I can put a $5k deposit on it and drive away with around a $25,000. loan I think.

 

Its rear wheel drive!

 

recently traded in my '22 ORP.... the Ford dealer has it listed now.... https://www.healeybrothersford.com/...-4Runner-ce3261ceac182ec2136302c23c962279.htm

 

Only 3K miles? What did you trade it in for?

 

Ordered a new TRD Off Road pro today, local, $58K, was happy, saw a bunch listed at other dealers for 5K+ more,,,,,,,and those not in stock.

 

I needed/wanted a pickup so I traded it in on a Raptor. I was also looking for local 3rd gen Tundra Pro's (I sorely miss mine) but came up empty. I just can't stomach a hybrid. Will likely add a new GX OT to the family once supply catches up and prices come down.

 

TRD Off Road pro?

 

Dealer near me has a couple on the lot and several in transit

 

Do you happen to have KDSS and if so is it working ok after lifting?

thx

 

Yeah they're drying up in the oklahoma city area new and used. The biggest dealer had 4 or 5 new ones and a couple of used . All the new they have listed above msrp because of their BS factory add-ons that they stick you for a few grand more. There is a couple of decent deals on fairly low mileage used if one was in the market.

 

i don’t know…. I guess time will tell. But even the frameless “wanna be a truck” Honda Ridgeline uses a V-6 naturaliy aspirated engine for krise sakes. Ridgelines are not for me and not on my radar screen for purchase. Ever!

I’d go Tacoma before I’d ever go Ridgeline. But for Tacoma to go to a 4 banger when the wanna be a truck Ridgeline has a V-6? What’s wrong with this picture!?

But I’m not seeing a Ridgeline at every street corner around here though either. My sightings of them are far and in between actually. I haven’t gone so far as to investigate Ridgeline prices, but something tells me that they are way over-priced, much like so many other vehicles are over-priced these days.

Does anyone here know for certain where Ridgelines are built? Japan? USA? Canada? Mexico?

 

Nothing, when the 4 banger is boosted.

The Ridgeline's V6 makes 262 LB/FT of torque, and not until 4700 RPM's. The Taco makes 317 at 1700. On paper, the turbo 4 is a way better truck engine.

 

On paper yes. But in the real world doing actual truck things like towing and hauling????

 

Yes, also then.

It makes way more usable power than the previous V6.

 

I have one, and yes, it is a really nice truck motor. The tranny is nice too.

 

Have you had a chance to tow with it?

 

You can use the TrueCar website to get a glimpse into what people are paying in your area. There are no deals to be had on the west coast - everything is MSRP (around $47k) in my area - with many dealers now slapping markups on the remaining stock.

I am contemplating parting with my 22 ORP as I may be relocating overseas soon and it seems like a good time to sell.

Personally I wouldn't pay markup on a new one - just buy a lightly used vehicle. The 24 is virtually identical to the prior 3-4 years. I think the only difference is the heated steering wheel.

 

the used ones are also marked up so to speak, they are selling for similar prices as new.

 

How do you know what the used ones are actually selling for?

I'm trying to price mine (22 ORP with only 11k miles + 6 months of warranty left, gray, 2 row, no sunroof, no KDSS, 100% stock except for tint, tires, and ORP wheels powder coated bronze). I'm seeing what people are asking for online but I don't know how to get a sense of what people are actually paying on the used market.

I just looked again on Toyota's 'search inventory' page and new TRD ORPs are actually currently averaging $50k and up (asking price). Eek!

 

Well, I don’t actually know what they are “selling” for, but I know they are asking lots.



edited to add

 

No kDSS to my knowledge.

 

No towing yet, but I have towed lots with an older Tacoma that has similar power to the Ridgeline. I also do lots of mountain driving. The turbo 4 has much more power at cruising rpm, and the tranny seems to always be in the right gear. It will be a very nice motor in the 4R. Having said that, I wouldn't change a thing with my new to us 2019 4R, (wife's) I bought it for its old school proven reliability and function.

 

Dealership I take my 4runner for service has 5 on the lot. Price on those seem not to high and with low miles. https://www.sloanetoyotamalvern.com/used-inventory/index.htm?make=Toyota&model=4Runner