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4Lo flashing, bad Neutral safety switch. Who has had this issue?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by Hyper15125, Jan 26, 2019.

  1. Jan 26, 2019 at 9:18 AM
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    Hyper15125

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    4Lo flashing on the dash

    Hard to shift from reverse to drive

    Gear indicator on the dash is blank.

    Been happening sporatically on my ‘14 for over a year and getting worse.

    Have it scheduled for the dealer next week, hopefully they wont pull anything trying to not cover it with my Extended Platinum warranty, just over 63k. I do have a video of it happening in case they say “cant duplicate customers concern.”

    It also needs a new front passenger side door actuator due to it failing.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vC7ipQkRQsBoDquD6
     
  2. Jan 27, 2019 at 10:22 AM
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    did you disconnect battery negative connection for an hour or so and then see if it returns ?
    another item is do you put it in 4wd/4wd LOW to provide lubrication of the transfer case and other 4wd components.. it is in the manual to do this periodically on flat straight rods for a short distance on solid dry pavement .. best on wet pavement less wear.
     
  3. Jan 27, 2019 at 11:05 AM
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    No I didn’t disconnect the battery because I want the problem to present itself to the dealer when I take it there. I do all the other things as far as the maintenance yearly and driving it in four-wheel-drive and acceptable amount of time. I read on other forums of people experiencing the same problem so I figured I’d take a poll here that way when I present it to the dealer I have data to back up that this has ioccurred to other people
     
  4. Jan 28, 2019 at 6:06 AM
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    this is not a common problem with the 5th gen . on older runners like 1999-2004 it is common with also high miles.. have not seen any issues with shifter stiff/4wd flashes and no dash tranny indicator missing on a 5th gen all the issues you have just when starting the vehicle in 2wd..

    IMO did a drink get dumped into the shifter assy ? that could do it .. if the dealership sees goop fell in to it then you may have to pay for the fix.
     
  5. Jan 28, 2019 at 6:08 AM
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    Hyper15125

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    No, nothing was spilled in it. I read on the other forum that a member had the same issue and it was the neutral safety switch. He also did not have anything spilled
     
  6. Jan 29, 2019 at 5:04 PM
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    Dealer called and are replacing the neutral safety switch as I thought. They advise that they are known to get moisture in them and have issues in colder temps. The new part has an updated part number so it is believed that the part was updated.
     
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  7. Jan 30, 2019 at 5:18 AM
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    post back if it is the switch or ?
    the neutral sw was reported to get messed up if a spill occurred.shifter you stated does not move as good ..sw may have broken cracked causing this shifter issue also.
    2 months ago I had to remove the center console on my 96 sedan. had to adjust the cable. when cold out I could not get it out of park had to wiggle the shifter to get it to move..
     
  8. Jan 30, 2019 at 5:38 AM
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    Mine is a 2014
     
  9. Jan 30, 2019 at 7:24 AM
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    IMO your 2014 is new compared to my 1996 sedan LOL...part may have cracked causing the problem. on a dodge there was a plastic part that cracked causing the shifter to create a no start condition..
     
  10. Feb 22, 2019 at 3:26 AM
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    Just an update here. The dealer replaced the neutral safety switch under my extended warranty, the part apparently has been updated.

    According to my advisor the version that came in my truck was known to get condensation in it. The problem is more likely to show itself when it gets cold out near freezing, hence the stiffness in the shift lever.

    All good now.
     
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  11. Feb 22, 2019 at 4:02 AM
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    Extremely interesting post and bazaar timing here's why. Tomorrow I have my first 6 month/5,000 visit appointment and a week ago while away for the weekend I was fooling around with the 4WD and my low was also flashing a light on my dash. I've been meaning to pull out the manuals. I'll definitely need to tonight in preparation for tomorrow. So what is the procedure for going into Low does the truck like being in park, neutral or doesn't it matter?
     
  12. Feb 22, 2019 at 5:23 AM
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    It needs to be a neutral. Your issue sounds like something different than mine.
     
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  13. Feb 22, 2019 at 5:30 AM
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    It will also blink until it actually goes into 4low. The more you use it the quicker and easier it will engage. All these things..4x4, 4low, locker, etc., need to be used occasionally. Toyota specifically notes in the the owners manual that the truck needs to be driven in 4x4 for 10 miles a month. This lubricates everything in the system, ensures proper working condition, and will show if anything is wrong.
     
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    I'll try it again today before my apt tomorrow and will put it in while in neutral. It maybe blinked for 2-3 minutes before I said the hell with it and took it out. Is that to long be keep blinking? 4hi seemed fine.
     
  15. Feb 22, 2019 at 5:39 AM
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    yeah that's long and it was probably because you were not in neutral. Sometimes you may have to slip in gear and move back or forward. You may have to do this to get it out of 4low also. Again, it works better the more you use it.
     
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    thanks for that feed back will help others ..
     
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    Have same issue on a 2015 4 runner, Where is the neutral safety switch located in the shifter ? or transmission ?
     
  18. Jul 17, 2021 at 10:20 AM
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    I believe its on the outside of the transmission case.

    others have had the issue as well.
     
  19. Jul 21, 2021 at 3:00 PM
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    Had the issue on my 2017 and it started happening a bunch this winter. Dealer confirmed this happens all the time in salty climates on 5th gen. 500 Canadian labour included (400 USD?). all fixed.
     
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    That’s bullshit because its a defective part with an updated part number, they should have covered it free of charge.
     
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  21. Jul 21, 2021 at 4:29 PM
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    dude, don't tell me that! I thought I got a good deal - I read on this board a while ago someone paid 700 USD mostly labour because the old one was stuck on and they couldn't get it off...
     
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  22. Jul 21, 2021 at 4:44 PM
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    My repair was free of charge. I did however have an extended Platinum warranty
     
  23. Jul 21, 2021 at 5:48 PM
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    ah ok, i don't feel so bad. I got my 2017 used and the balance of warranty ran out last march.
     

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