2023 TRD PRO: $15,000 "Market Adjustment" over MSRP

A Highlander would have been a wise choice, since you have a Jeep.

 

I had a feeling you were that guy. The smart people are the one who know they don’t know everything…

 

I don’t think the Highlander would like trails in Sedona, Colorado, or Moab. And no I’m not driving all the way there with a tj on 35s

 

I know a thing or two about 4X4s. And TRD Pro is a TRD Offroad with a black bumper instead of a silver, and costs 10 grand more, plus the markup

 

Maybe those are the only things you notice, but those are not the only differences. Just because YOU don’t value items that are on the Pro and not available on the TRD Off-road doesn’t mean they are worthless to everyone else. Being a 4x4 is part of being a vehicle, there is also lots of other things that don’t just become irrelevant because it is a 4x4. As someone else said, you be you. Just stop expecting everyone else to want to be like you.

 

Toyota advertises TRD Pro as the Pro of their offroaders, and all they give you are black bumpers. The rest like fancy sound system are irrelevant. With Wrangler Rubicon Recon, you get a ton, things that are not available on Sahara and Willy's. Toyota needs to do better

 

I had an uncle in Greece who used to say that miserable people will try to convince you that your gold is dirt and their dirt is gold lol just wish them the best.

 

Miserable enough to not give my money to a scam.

 

Again, you don’t value the Fox shocks, you don’t value the slight lift, you don’t value the front skid plate, you don’t value the much nicer looking wheels, you don’t value the AT tires, you don’t value the roof rack, you don’t value the TRD exhaust, you don’t value the black bumpers, you don’t value the different grille (oh wait you do since you put that on to make your look more like a Pro), you don’t value automatic headlights, you don’t value dual zone climate control, you don’t value the remote app, you don’t value JBL sound….

Just because your only focus is off-road, doesn’t mean that lots of us don’t want the modest improvements for off-road along with the better appearance and more loaded feature set of the TRD Pro. So you can stop with the it’s only black bumpers BS.

 

I didn't put the grill to look like a Pro, I put it on for the classic Toyota look. No, I do not value any of those things that you mentioned, they don't add to the offroad worthiness of the truck. Those TRD Pro tires are a joke, nobody keeps them because they are crap offroad. Wrangler Rubicon comes with 4.10, 4.56, 4.88 gearings, two lockers, and 35 inch KO2s from the factory, 37s can be added with just a lift, no trimming needed. That's a Pro, not the crap that Toyota is putting out and charging a Premium

 

@Yotaholic with your reasoning it sounds like you overpaid your truck by 30-40k. Since you don’t care about anything but offroad capabilities you should have got an older 4R (or another vehicle) for a lot less money than your brand new truck and just add the same aftermarket mods to it

 

And keep replacing the engine and transmission, and electronics, and on and on and on? You really think it would have been cheaper long term?

 

That’s not something you have to worry about in a Toyota

 

Come on, so many blown up motors on this board. Any motor can die if not well taken care of

 

@Yotaholic I think it's no point continue to argue. I truly value your mods. I miss them when Toyota dealership replaced mine after the accident. Probably because I'm an amateur I don't know how to wheel a stock Pro, vs looking forward for mods. Just wanted to say at least people like me truly value your build vs my almost stock Pro. Don't go too much in to this topic. Let people be happy what they have. I don't want this thread to turn in to personal hate/ people starting to hate your build and talk crap about it.

Cheers

 

I wouldn't mind paying for the Pro if it came with lower gearing and a bit bigger tires and a decent sized factory lift. But that 1/2 - 3/4 inch lifts seems not even worth it, and don't get me started with the Fox 2.0 shocks which as the cheapest possible Fox offering, seems to be spec'ed just so Toyota can throw the "Fox Shocks" name around.

10k buys a helluva lot of shocks, lift, and tires, and maybe even a re-gear if one doesn't go crazy on the first 3.

 

Thanks. Discussions like these may pressure Toyota to give us a real TRD Pro with a swaybar disconnect, two lockers, a very aggressive gearing, a meaningful lift, and some steel armor and winch package, all covered by warranty. Then I will have no problem giving extra 10-15 grand to them. Until then, happy modding!

 

That would be amazing. But it’s a sweet dream to see that from Toyota and keep the truck under 70k

 

An ORP loaded with similar features as the pro (moonroof, mtm, etc…) is 4K cheaper not 10k.

 

Doable. Barebone $35k SR5 built with those specs, and you get a real TRD Pro for $55k. JBL, heated seats and all that should go to Limited or Platinum.

 

I got mine for $48k, fully loaded with MTM, blacked out emblems and nice rock sliders TRD Pro is no less than $57k, without markup

 

Mine was 53k before taxes if I recall but it’s a 22. I guess they increased the price quite a bit in the past 2 years

ps: the rock sliders from Toyota are not nice. Change them with some real ones, you’ll do your truck a favor if you wheel hard

 

My 23 ORP with KDSS, moonroof, etc was stickered at 47k.

If there are Pros available for 51k, I would buy it on the spot, now, cash. As of a few minutes ago the cheapest Pro within 150 miles of me is 57k, and it's stock photos so probably already spoken for by someone on a waiting list. The cheapest one with an actual photo indicating it's on the lot available is 62k.

For 62k I'm getting a GX460, LOL.

 

The sticker on a fully loaded 24 ORP is 51k


When I was looking to buy my 4R I could’ve got a ORP for 48k or the pro for 53k and I sold the pro rack for a good amount of money as soon as I brought it home (I was gonna get an aftermarket rack regardless of the trim).
I also wanted dual climate control, and pro wheels. And if I got the ORP I would have spent over 1k to change the tires right away (nitto are not the best but they get by until i get Toyo at3 or falken wildpeak aournd 40-50k miles) + the wheels eventually.
I know there’s better suspension than the fox but I’m actually really satisfied with them. So my choice was a no brainer

 

that's the 2024 prices. I bet the Pro is a couple grand more than comparable 2023 Pros and in turn another couple of grand more than your prices.

 

Yes I know.
24 pro is 56k. 3k more expensive than mine

 

I was new to Toyota world, I didn't know you can get a TRD Offroad too, it is cheaper than Premium. You live you learn

 

It's not like we have much of a choice. For the last year or two Toyota is not send the US any amount of regular ORs. Within 150 miles of my location there are 145 ORP in stock or in transit, 0 Off Road. We can't really pick and choose at this point in time.

 

Yes I was actually surprised you didn’t get that. It’s got the exact same off road features as the ORP (crawl control, rear locker, manual transfer case) without all the fancy interior stuff

 

In AZ they’re not super popular but they exist.
There are 13 in the Phoenix area. A lot less than ORP but better than 0!