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2021 LED headlights in earlier 5th gens...

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by 4Runner fun, Nov 21, 2020 at 6:39 PM.

  1. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:39 PM
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    Good evening all,
    I am curious if anyone knows what it takes or if it is even possible to retrofit the 2021 LED headlights into another 5th gen 4 runner? Say our 2019...
    Seriously, if there is a drastic difference in performance & light output it may make for a good upgrade.
    I know that the 2021's haven't been out that long. Maybe we can start to figure this out & reap the rewards.
    Any thoughts or knowledge is appreciated!
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    HIDs are better just put them in.
     
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    i thought about the same thing wondering if the wiring harness might be different to the lights because the fog lights are different also
     
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    I knew you would be one of the first to chime in! LMAO I know we have talked in the past about this. I wish I could get a $78 HID kit that I 1.could trust 2. Matched the color of the factory LED fogs I like very much for the price!
    I would like this to be a thread about the conversation & not lighting options as there are plenty of those. Absolutely no offense to your response! I just don't want another "use these bulbs" as most people here can search or know the options.
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    How are the fogs different? I plug & played the OEM LED fogs with the same harness & housing as the halogen!!!
    Thanks,
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    When I first turned on the LED headlights in the 14 Corolla (premium S) I was astounded. Never in my life have I ever lit up the night before. And they have proper cut off blinds. I’m sure others who have the 21 have noticed too...
     
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    really i did not know that I thought they would be different because of LED lights
     
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  10. Nov 22, 2020 at 12:07 AM
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    My monkey arms 6'4 were able to do it without taking the fender liners out or bumper off!
    I may or may have :( not broken one tab on the fluid guard on the passenger side... lol
    It isn't that hard to do without removing the bumper. Nor is it that hard to take the bumper off. No offense.
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    Hi Ryan, no offense taken. Bumper takes less than 15 minutes to pop off, but for some it’s a deal breaker...
     
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    I believe 2021 has one plug different from the 2019 picture attach. Sorry pic not clear. If you can take the pics of your I can confirm. But easy swap. There are 4 connectors for the headlight.

    FA7D0C37-4E4B-4E4C-9BA7-0D86367B0DC8.jpg
     
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    Do I need to take the bumper off to see? Or just top engine plastic piece?
    Thanks a bunch!
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    I am not 100% sure, I think you have to remove the fender liner at least. This connector below the headlight. If you wanna swap the 2021 headlight I don't think there is a problem, except you must transfer 1 connector above pic. thanks all.
     
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    I just woke up. I will get @ you later; when I have my brain together.
    Are you doing this also?
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  16. Nov 22, 2020 at 5:37 AM
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    no, my 4R is 2021, I swap out ALPHAREX.

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    Those are beautiful!
    If this works... Are you looking to sell your OEM lights?
     
  18. Nov 22, 2020 at 5:45 AM
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    It already sold.
     
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    They are still going strong!
     
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    It is not warm here & my shop isn't empty yet.
    I need help; I'm looking for anyone that has knowledge of pre '21 (halogen) headlights. Or someone who has taken the bumper off & may have pictures of said wiring above.
    Please & thank you.
    @Daytonaviolet I know you have pulled the bumper & I believe you changed your headlights. Am I correct?
    Thanks all!
     
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    Do you know what that one wire or connector dues/ controls? This appears close to plug & play...
    Thanks.
     
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    Low beam. Look at the lower left, that's the only difference. I added another pic before I swap out.

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    I've had good luck with HID's from DDMtuming.com. Pretty cheap and surprisingly reliable.
     
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    Is the turn signal also an LED from the factory? That what that looks like what it goes to (to my untrained eyes).
    Thanks for all your help!

    If Toyota won't update the platform I guess we can try & keep up with their small updates! Lol
     
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    I appreciate it I just want a post about the possibility of a retrofit for this.
    Thanks,
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    2021:

    LED Low beam headlights
    LED Fogs
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    Adds LED high beams

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    Are you serious! JK
    The LED headlights come with 2 LED headlight options... so, still halogen for all but 3 models!
    :goingcrazy::goingcrazy::goingcrazy:
     
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    OEM led must be pretty bad. The alpharex are fine for city driving but night highway or extended driving will give you a headache with the alpharex. They are just intensely bright fog lights and not great headlights.
    This thread has pics. Alpharex and explanation near bottom of first post
    https://www.4runners.com/threads/headlight-comparison-stock-vs-others.11875/
     
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    Ryan I forgot to respond to this. To remove or replace the OEM headlights the bumper has to come off. No way around it. I'll hunt for some videos I saw that show clearly how to do it. Many online are not easy to follow. I was nervous the first time but after you do it you can see it's easy to do. I've done it so many times now a headlight swap takes 30 to 40 minutes... Alignment takes longer for me as I'm anal about iit and use a laser level.
    With the OEM led... Can't say for sure but drivers and a wire harness may be needed. That's how it was was I swapped my Ford truck.
     
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    @ForRun
    I am aware & not hesitate of how to remove the front bumper. I just don't want to just to find out what the wiring is. I should be able to find that somewhere..!
    I know you have changed a lot of bulbs & headlights. I see you say the 2021 LED'S must suck (why?)... Have you tried or seen them?
    I am definitely not a fan of retaining halogen high beams but I believe fogs cut out & we hardly need high beams in the city. I will be putting a 20" bar behind the grill (maybe for Christmas) & that should be enough for offroad also.
    Thanks,
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