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2020 4Runner TPMS Sensors Not Linking Up

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010+)' started by tackindy, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. Nov 19, 2019 at 7:02 AM
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    If you get new tires or rims with a 2020 BE CAREFUL!

    So I bought a 2020 SR5 Premium and immediately went with Level 8 MK6 wheels. I ran by Discount Tire and had them install the rims with the stock tires and sensors BUT they broke one. Long story short they ordered a Toyota replacement but still cannot get it to link up and work. They said there must be a new program or something to make it work and that I would need to go by the dealship and get them to link the sensors, they cleared the factory ones too, to the vehicle.

    So... does anyone know if this is true? Can you link them to the vehicle without a fancy tool? And has anyone else experienced this?

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  2. Nov 19, 2019 at 7:03 AM
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    Oh, and I believe they said the frequency changed from 300mhz to 330 or something and that is why their generic sensor wasn't a good replacement. So far you must order TPMS sensors from Toyota until someone comes out with the new frequency.
     
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  3. Dec 3, 2019 at 6:57 AM
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    I'd like to bump this thread. I have the exact same issue - I've been back and forth from discount tire to the dealership and no one is able to fix it. Discount tire broke 2 sensors but ordered factory replacements from this dealership. Dealership says they're all broke. Discount tire shows me their reader that shows all 4 sensors are working. Dealership says they can't pair them. Now they want to take the tires off and look at them, and of course make me pay. Did you ever find resolution?

     
  4. Dec 3, 2019 at 7:16 AM
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    The solution....

    Finally a guy at Discount Tire said that the new Toyota's have a different pairing program that they have not gotten a download for their programmers yet. They expect it in early January of 2020. So, I took mine to a Toyota dealer and they re-paired the sensors to the 4runner using their equipment. It does work and they did try to say the sensors were bad but relinking them to the vehicle does work. I took the receipt back to Discount Tire and the manager handed me my $180 spent to have Toyota fix it. He said he would and honored his word.
     
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  5. Dec 3, 2019 at 7:19 AM
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    Right now I'd be REALLY careful about changing out tires or wheels on a 2020. It will be a month or so before Discount Tire or probably others get the updated pairing program to do the pairing with the vehicle. A caveat may be to request they be extremely careful and not attempt to relink or reprogram the sensors on the vehicle. I would think they could change out tires or even wheels without touching the programming. If they break one, at this time, it MUST be replaced with a Toyota OEM part AND re-paired by a dealership.
     
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  6. Dec 3, 2019 at 8:08 AM
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    It all depends where you go. I have a tire place I go to. Had them put new SCS wheels on my Tacoma few years ago. Took the factory sensors out and put in the new wheels. No issues the guy removing the tire from wheel needs to know how to do it without damaging the TPS.
     
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  7. Dec 3, 2019 at 8:37 AM
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    Did they say what exactly they did to fix it? I was writing on my phone earlier, here's a more detailed account of what happened - maybe you'll be able to provide some insight (and i get to vent) so thanks in advance:

    - I had DT (Discount Tire) swap in some new Method NVs and Falken Wildpeaks on my brand new 2020 TRDORP.
    - They claim to have broken 2 sensors, and ordered replacements directly from the Toyota Dealership (Charles Maund in ATX)
    - DT put these replacements in, but still are not able to pair. Their scanner tool shows the sensors and their respective IDs, indicating that they aren't broken, but DT appears to not have the proper software for pairing 2020's - they can see them just fine, but are not able to connect them to the car.
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    - I go to the dealership, they spend 3 hours troubleshooting then say "all 4 sensors are broken, that'll be $800 to get new ones."
    - DT manager says fuck that, we just replaced two of them, I know they're working.
    - I go back to the Dealership at a later day, with sensor ID's in hand (from the previous picture), and give them to the senior service tech. Hour and a half later, they still aren't able to pair them. They claim that valid ID's are 7 digits, and 3 of the 4 ID's in that picture have 8 digits, so they won't work. And now we're here.

    I've spent about 8 hours of my time in various waiting rooms so i'm starting to get annoyed lol. If anyone else has any actionable insight into what the fuck is going on, I would sincerely appreciate it.

    Well this issue here isn't so much the fact that they break the TPMS. The issue is that there's something different with the 2020 TMPS sensors that appears to not be communicated to the 3rd party vendors, nor the dealerships themselves. I'd be fine right now if they didn't break the sensors in the first place, but we're well beyond that point now.
     
  8. Dec 3, 2019 at 8:48 AM
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    Yeah it don’t make sense. Try to do something easy just putting nicer wheels on and you have to go thru this. It sucks. I have been there with other stuff. Hard to believe there is anything different with the 2020 sensors. Unless because of the TPS show up on my dash on my 2020 Pro could have something to do with it. My 15 Tacoma did not have that on the dash showing what the lbs were. It’s showed you had low tire. I think it is something with that. Anything showing in your owners manual?
     
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  9. Dec 3, 2019 at 8:55 AM
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    Yes, someone correct me if i'm wrong but I believe only the 2020 4Runners have the ability to see individual tire pressures in the dash, indicating at least some level of difference (software only, most likely) between 2020 and 2019.

    Great observation. I was scrambling to get to work and didn't piece that together. I'll have to give them a call back and see why they weren't able to at least pair the 7 digit sensor.
     
  10. Dec 3, 2019 at 9:09 AM
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    Yes good observation Kevin,
    Yes I believe only started in the 2020 able to read tire pressure.
     
  11. Dec 3, 2019 at 12:17 PM
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    Are you going to the Dealership you bought the truck from? Can you try a different dealership? I know Principle Toyota in Memphis really provided a stupid answer when I said I needed them reprogrammed. The tech said "some wheels put them at an odd angle and the aim is off transmitting the signal". Uh...... BULLS***! So I took the truck to the dealer I bought from and told them, they also gave me a little runaround but once I told them the updated software was used to program them, one of the guys said "oh yeah there is an update, let me go get it and we'll try it". And that worked.
     
  12. Jan 18, 2020 at 3:08 PM
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    Just FYI, the previous 4Runners could read the TPMS data it just only offered the dash light. Aftermarket head units can tap into the OBDII interface and get that. Seen it in person with my own eyes. Jelly too. Oh well.
     
  13. Jun 28, 2020 at 7:04 AM
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  14. Jun 28, 2020 at 4:00 PM
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    My 2020 TRD Pro pairs the sensors from the dash. I tried to add a tpms sensor to the spare but that confused all of them, so I had to take out the one for the spare and re-pair the other four. I think a 2020 limited will do 5 sensors.
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