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10k oil changes

Discussion in 'General 4Runner Talk' started by Jynarik, Jul 24, 2019.

  1. Apr 25, 2020 at 1:34 PM
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    Ive just always chawed at 5K so this is weird to me. Since this "pandemic" ruined my business for awhile I probably won't be able to keep this 4 Runner anyway so not wanting to spend any extra love money on it.
     
  2. Apr 25, 2020 at 1:37 PM
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    Synthetic oil doesn't break down as quickly and has more additives. Don't let the 10k feel weird.
     
  3. Apr 25, 2020 at 1:40 PM
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    Now I have to research how to turn it off both the radio and dash.
     
  4. Apr 25, 2020 at 1:42 PM
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    It's easy.

    Something with Trip A, pressing and holding the odometer button, and turning the key to the accessory setting. I forget exactly.

    Youtube it.
     
  5. Apr 25, 2020 at 1:52 PM
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    I wonder if that also resets the radio.
     
  6. Apr 25, 2020 at 1:56 PM
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    Good question.

    4Runners prior to 2020 don't have that show up on the radio screen, so I wouldn't know.

    The methods to remove the alert could be different as well, for all I know. It's just been like that across a bunch of Toyota vehicles for quite a while.
     
  7. Apr 25, 2020 at 1:59 PM
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    The one on the radio is for the tire rotation which I did at Discount Tire. On the dash its just says oil change soon.
     
  8. Apr 25, 2020 at 2:02 PM
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    Interesting. Two different warning areas!

    I'm sure it's in your manual somewhere on how to turn them off........on some obscure page in the middle of the manual, in tiny little print. Haha!
     
  9. Apr 25, 2020 at 2:03 PM
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    I like 5k, and hit the dealer twice a year in each vehicle. I don't do many miles, but they are very rough miles, and dusty or sopping muddy wet. I have very minimum maintenance problems.
     
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    Exactly
     
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    Took mine to the dealer at 7k and said to change it. I'll pay either way.

    They got it done and said that it was on them. Said my cabin filter was about due and I obviously used my vehicle in off-road and dusty conditions. Cool. The sticker they put on the window said to bring it back at 12k for the next free oil change.
     
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  12. May 2, 2020 at 5:09 AM
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    2005 150,000 miles SR5 conventional NAPA 10W 40 (Bahamas temps 60 degrees to 100 degrees all year long)
    Change every 5000 miles with good filter.
    never had a check engine oil lite in 15 years. Do my own Iridium plugs.
    4 starters - including the OEM that lasted 4 years.
    Don't rebuild a starter. Buy a AM one from Amazon for $100. They last 4 years too.
    Dealer want $900 for starter from Japan. Would have had a long wait.
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    Most reliable car I ever owned. Owned a Caddy NS (Junk - leaked oil) and a GMC JIMMY that rusted everywhere. Sold for $600. Bought it new in Stuart Florida.
     
  13. May 2, 2020 at 7:47 AM
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    I will forever wonder when anecdotal evidence will cease to be a thing and people will instead just follow the manual. These weird intervals other than what the manual says make no sense. People follow what kind of oil like gospel, but as far as how long, nah let's get wild. "Ope I change it every 11 miles and it runs great!"

    Just follow the manual, oil and orange juice have a lot in common. At one point there was a serious ad campaign to make you consume more, and look, here we are.
     
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  14. May 2, 2020 at 8:47 AM
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    4 starters in 15 years? Wow! I still have my original in my 92. Original compressor too.
     
  15. May 2, 2020 at 11:43 AM
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    Those who change at short intervals often make the "cheap insurance" claim.

    So let's say you're spending $40 per oil change every 5,000 miles. That means you would do 50 oil changes in 250,000 miles and spend $2,000.

    At a 10,000 mile oil change interval, you'd be spending $1000 in 250,000 miles and save $1000. That's enough money to buy a complete suspension lift.

    I'll take an extra $1000 in saving for truck parts!
     
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  16. Jun 24, 2020 at 12:53 PM
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    I own a fleet of service vans and we switched to synthetic oil and 6k mile oil changes ions ago (1995). We only keep the trucks until they hit +/- 120k miles, but we've never lost an engine since.

    On our ML350, not doing frequent oil changes along with a lot of stop'n go traffic often results in Black Death, which is a terrible sludging in the engine. Nasty shit. Our needy beotch gets an engine flush every 3k miles followed by a cheap oil flush, then an oil filter and fresh Amsoil Competition oil. Also replaced the OEM oil filter with a spin-on version which increased oil filtration by a bunch.

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    Also ordered an oil-filter relocation kit for the 4Runner, should be in any day now. Waiting for it to do my first oil change, I'm only at 2500 miles so far
     

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    I've pretty much stuck with 10k changes on all of my vehicles when they run out of the service warranty. As soon as they do run out I start doing my own changes I switch to full synthetic. I've been using Amsoil in my 4Runner, my diesel truck, motorcycle and all of my small engine stuff. I'll switch the new Highlander when the extended warranty service runs out on it as well.
     
  19. Jul 20, 2020 at 7:59 AM
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    IMO everybody disagrees about this -- and yet all of them are equally right :D

    Seriously, I personally have always done the first change early, say around 1000-1500 miles. Then at 5000 miles increments after that. I like to get it on the 5000 mile mark so it's easy to remember (change due at 10,000 miles on the odo, at 15,000 miles etc).

    I've had several cars in recent years with free scheduled maintenance. I'd typically bring the car in at 5000 miles and pay to have it done, and tell them not to reset the service indicator so it still pops for the free one on schedule at 10,000. Every dealer service department I know is used to people doing this and it's not a problem. So I do double the oil changes as recommended, and pay for half of them.

    On most of my cars I often did the intervening changes myself. I'm not sure if I'll bother with that on the 4R, since the filter change looks a little messy. My past few cars had the filter on top of the block, so it was super easy. I may not even do the 1000-1500 mile change on the 4R, since the engines are known to be so bulletproof. On my past BMWs, VWs and Subarus, I think it was reasonable to be more concerned about the engines being a bit more on the delicate side.

    But the 4R tires should be rotated and inspections done at 5000 miles anyway, so I'll pay for an oil change then for sure.

    People have a religious fervor about this issue generally. Arguing about it is sure to bring angry reprisals. I wouldn't argue with either the "just follow the owners manual" crowd or the "I prefer to err on the side of caution" crowd. But I personally am in the second group.

    Edit: As someone else mentioned, you do need to be careful trusting the dealer service department to do the job right -- regardless of what schedule you're following. I've had dealers overfill, puncture the filter so it leaked all over my driveway, even claim to have done the change when they didn't because they were backed up with the recall work that I'd also brought the car in for. I always check the oil after the dealer visit in order to check the level and that it was done. I'm definitely more confident with my own oil changes than the ones at the dealer. Still, good dealers and companies like Toyota seem to take service seriously, and I'm sure 95% of the techs are good.
     
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    I've been doing 5K intervals as well. Based on the manual, off roading is considered "extreme" use, so they recommend 5K in my situation. Aside from that, I rotate my tires at 5K anyhow, so it just makes sense to change the oil while it on jackstands.

    And yes, the filter change tends to be messy. There seems to be a trick to it that I haven't figured out yet.:confused:
     
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    Yep, and worse try changing the filter in a current gen Mini Cooper. Or on a lot of other modern front drive cars. What a pain in the arse. Having the filter on top of the block is literally a consideration for me when buying. But again, the 4R is known to be so tough that I didn't let that get in the way. Plus it doesn't look like the DIY is hard -- just messy. Be sure to put down a blanket!
     
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    10k intervals are fine, brand of oil doesn't matter
     
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    ...If you don't off-road, or tow, according to the manual.
     
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    Right. The people who insist we all "just follow the manual" should really "just follow the manual" :D And that includes more frequent changes for harder use. Every manufacturer I've seen recommends halving the oil change interval if you're doing stuff like towing, carrying heavy loads, driving in dusty conditions, or doing lots of short trips.
     
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    I will tell you a little something about my tacoma that has 200k miles in it. I change the oil every 12,500 miles based upon oil analysis. I know its shocking but I live in florida and take that truck up to hunting camp frequently . The only brand of oil i use is the cheapest synthetic i can find. Crazy isn't it? Lol
     
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    I used the synthetic oil in my 2005 V6 4runer with 150,000 miles and the car started to leak immediately I switched back to NAPA conventional and the leak slowed down dramatically.
    Prior to the Synthetic oil the 4runner didn't ever leak even a drop.

    Change every 5000 miles with conventional is best for 15 year old 4runners.
     
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    Don't use the small drain plug on the filter.

    Cover your hand with a 1gal ziploc or similar.

    Loosen the filter housing.

    Grasp the housing through the bag, flip the sides of bag up.

    Unscrew housing the rest of the way.

    Oil glops into bag.
     
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    Now that's smart!

    I've tried using the little drain fitting that jams into the bottom of the filter housing, but it never fully empties it.

    I'll put Ziploc bags on my grocery list.
     
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    Actually a plastic grocery bag works... although every so often they have pinholes and that's really aggravating... ziplocs are sturdier plus you can zip them closed and toss them!
     
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    I've heard of that before. It's because some of the additives in synthetic oils are detergents to reduce sludge, which in turn remove deposits that have been clogging leaks.

    Is synthetic oil recommended for your 2005?

    It is for my 2018.
     
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