1. Welcome to 4Runners.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all 4Runner discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other 4Runner owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

MSRP Dealerships- List Them

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by T4Rrunning, May 25, 2021.

?

Has this thread helped you or someone you know with a purchase?

  1. Yes

    40 vote(s)
    85.1%
  2. No

    7 vote(s)
    14.9%
  1. Nov 24, 2021 at 10:03 AM
    #391
    YetiMtnBkr

    YetiMtnBkr New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2021
    Member:
    #18893
    Messages:
    940
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    Frederick, MD
    Vehicle:
    2021 LR Pro
    None
    How much would a top of the line Lime Rush paint job cost on a 4R?
     
    Rocksurfer likes this.
  2. Nov 24, 2021 at 11:04 AM
    #392
    OverRunner

    OverRunner rebmeM weN

    Joined:
    May 2, 2021
    Member:
    #21242
    Messages:
    293
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jared
    Denton, TX
    Vehicle:
    ‘21 ORP w/KDSS
    Top of the line, with proper prep work and painting the jambs and trim would probably be between $15-$20k. I bet you could get a vinyl wrap for a couple grand though.
     
    Rocksurfer likes this.
  3. Nov 24, 2021 at 11:51 AM
    #393
    Yota71

    Yota71 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2021
    Member:
    #24361
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    Hi Guys, found this site and decided to join if for nothing else to clear a mistake.

    I currently work at John Elway's Crown Toyota (don't worry, I'm not here to solicit anything) and have been here for 3 years and in the business in every aspect for nearly 30 years.

    Crown Toyota DOES NOT have a mark up and since John Elway's name has been on the store, they never have. Not even when dealers were marking up Supras.

    I think I read somewhere that Crown Toyota had a mark up of $7K on an SR5 (something about a broker). NOT TRUE.

    Managers are not allowed to send paperwork to finance if the price is over MSRP and if they do, the finance department catches it and sends it back. It used to be before this craziness John Elway's Crown Toyota was a One Price store below MSRP with no haggling. Obviously given the current climate, things have changed but they are definitely not over MSRP. The sales staff gets paid a flat rate for each car which means if they sell you a Corolla or a 4Runner, they get paid exactly the same hence they are not there to upsell you on a higher trim model because they make more money because they simply don't. Honestly the salesman gets screwed there but then again, the salesman sells more cars due to the "One Price.Simple.No Games" process which our clients love. In the Inland Empire there are roughly about 8-10 Toyota dealers and we are the ONLY ones NOT MARKING up our prices hence the lack of inventory at our store. The dealers who do have a handful of vehicles in stock have it because of the mark up. Unfortunately, we as well as some other dealers have enforced Toyota's 25 mile rule. This rule has always been in place however when inventory was plentiful, no one cared but now that it's not, we have to be fair to our local clients. At Crown Toyota we can still sell you a vehicle if you're outside our market but the vehicle has to be in stock and we cannot take a deposit on any incoming vehicle. The only way around that is if you are a previous customer.

    A couple of things I'll mention. Crown Toyota used to put lift-kits, over-sized tires and rims on certain models for a pretty penny however being one of the largest dealers we always had a twin or 3 of that same model you can buy without the add-ons. With the global chip shortage John Elway's Crown Toyota paused doing this as inventory was scarce but from time to time they will do it and maybe this is what the other person who claimed $7K over meant but again, John Elway's Crown Toyota does NOT MARK up prices.

    On a different note, I read something about Longo and out of state, sales tax or shipping. In the beautiful state of CA, if a customer drives off the lot, the dealer is required to charge sales tax for the county the client lives in however if the client is out of state and he/she drives off the lot then the dealer is required to charge sales tax where the dealer is located and in Longo's case that's a whopping 10%. The only way around this is if the vehicle is shipped. No new car franchise dealer will risk their franchise, just not worth it.


    Anyways, I just wanted to mention that. Happy Thanksgiving folks!
     
  4. Nov 24, 2021 at 2:26 PM
    #394
    6uam671_T4R

    6uam671_T4R New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2019
    Member:
    #10228
    Messages:
    162
    From your post that I’ve quoted, it sounds like you were on the right path to clear things up UNTIL you mentioning “Reading something about Longo”.

    If you have no evidence of their practice, then you’re just adding to the slander that you’re trying to avoid about your dealership.

    Lack of inventory seems to be a problem at all dealerships right now and your dealerships NO MARKUP practice may not be the reason.

    To be clear, I’m not defending any dealership. If your dealership or ANY dealership has the vehicle I’m looking to purchase AND sell it to me at MSRP, consider it sold.
     
    peaceloveandtattoos likes this.
  5. Nov 24, 2021 at 4:50 PM
    #395
    Yota71

    Yota71 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2021
    Member:
    #24361
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male

    Actually, you misunderstood me, I'm by no means slandering ANY dealership good or bad. On this very thread someone said something about not purchasing a vehicle from Longo because they wanted to charge CA sales tax for an out of state customer or have the customer pay for shipping. I was just commenting on why (the dealer Longo in this case) took that stance.

    Regarding selling at MSRP, any new vehicle we have is sold at MSRP period, no if's, and's or but's about it however as I indicated, you have to live within 25 miles or be a previous customer.

    I'm not here to get you to buy from me but rather to clear up what I read on this particular thread about Crown Toyota marking up SR5's $7K and I actually went through all 14 pages of comments hence why I decided to chime in. Hope that was clear enough.


    Happy Holidays!
     
  6. Nov 24, 2021 at 6:28 PM
    #396
    6uam671_T4R

    6uam671_T4R New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2019
    Member:
    #10228
    Messages:
    162
    Like I said in my earlier post, you were going in the right direction trying to clear up what practices your dealership follow.

    Hear say is just that. Not everything on this or any other thread is true.

    It would be good business practice to focus on YOUR dealership and leave others out of the conversation.

    I didn’t get the impression that you were trying to get me to purchase from your dealership. That wasn’t even my point.
     
  7. Nov 24, 2021 at 9:59 PM
    #397
    Yota71

    Yota71 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2021
    Member:
    #24361
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    I was commenting on a post from this thread as to the legal reason why a dealer would ask an out of state customer to pay CA sales tax or pay for shipping and in no way shape or form slandering them..quite the opposite but my mistake, I should have posted the thread instead to make it clear. Sorry

    Happy Holidays!
     
    Spare Parts likes this.
  8. Nov 24, 2021 at 10:30 PM
    #398
    Antman

    Antman New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2020
    Member:
    #12698
    Messages:
    695
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Anthony
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    2021 4Runner off-road premium, 2022 Tacoma
    2021 4Runner: King Coilovers King rear shocks Camburg UCA’s Spc rear Trail arms Icon 52700 rear springs Icon panhard bar SCS Ray10’s Rci Sliders Rci Full Skids 2022 Tacoma Offroad: King Coilovers King rear shocks Deaver leaf springs Camburg UCA Scs Gen 5 Bamf front hybrid bumper Rci Full Skids Rci Sliders

    Hello Sir! Just wondering if you guys have a wait list for the Tacoma pro? And if so, how many people are on it?
     
  9. Nov 25, 2021 at 1:52 AM
    #399
    6uam671_T4R

    6uam671_T4R New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2019
    Member:
    #10228
    Messages:
    162

    No apologies needed! Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving.
     
    Yota71[QUOTED] likes this.
  10. Nov 25, 2021 at 4:59 AM
    #400
    Beachguy

    Beachguy Normal turned up too loud

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2021
    Member:
    #19847
    Messages:
    3,271
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Robert
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2021 SR5 Premium
    This is a stand up post and I commend you for setting the record straight.
     
    Rocksurfer and Spare Parts like this.
  11. Nov 25, 2021 at 5:36 AM
    #401
    Spare Parts

    Spare Parts New Member

    Joined:
    May 13, 2020
    Member:
    #14274
    Messages:
    2,317
    Gender:
    Male
    Southern Maine
    Vehicle:
    22 LR ORP
    Sherpa Crestone. 4X Innovations Sliders
    I think they had a great post and shared info to help us understand why Longo may have told the customer what they did.

    I also didn’t know about the 25 mile rule, I would think it needs to be more than 25 miles, but good on those that are following the rules.

    Oh and as an Elway fan, glad to here his dealerships are treating folks right.
     
  12. Nov 25, 2021 at 2:06 PM
    #402
    Surfinjoe

    Surfinjoe New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2019
    Member:
    #8993
    Messages:
    36
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joe
    SoCal
    Vehicle:
    2022 Lime Rush Pro
    Lots of news services are reporting that Toyota is ramping up production again and has somehow figured out the chip shortage issue. Maybe there is hope of getting things more normal…..
     
  13. Nov 25, 2021 at 2:55 PM
    #403
    6uam671_T4R

    6uam671_T4R New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2019
    Member:
    #10228
    Messages:
    162
    We can only hope!
     
  14. Nov 26, 2021 at 12:34 PM
    #404
    Dmesser92

    Dmesser92 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2021
    Member:
    #24161
    Messages:
    22
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dylan
    Vehicle:
    1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 4x4
    Toyota of Easley, South Carolina
     
  15. Nov 26, 2021 at 9:44 PM
    #405
    glwood54

    glwood54 Stop making me buy stuff!

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2019
    Member:
    #10964
    Messages:
    5,536
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Gary
    Albuquerque, NM
    Vehicle:
    2019 OR, KDSS, RSG sliders, Eibach shocks, 265/70 Falken Wildpeaks
    What about 'em?
     
  16. Nov 27, 2021 at 1:46 AM
    #406
    Dmesser92

    Dmesser92 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2021
    Member:
    #24161
    Messages:
    22
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dylan
    Vehicle:
    1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 4x4
    Sorry should have been more specific. They’re charging MSRP.
     
  17. Nov 28, 2021 at 9:25 PM
    #407
    acar7145

    acar7145 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2021
    Member:
    #24424
    Messages:
    11
    Gender:
    Male
    Purchased my new 2022 4runner SR5 at msrp on Friday from Autonation Toyota ft.Myers, FL. Great service and honest staff! found what I was looking for after contacting mutiple dealers and being charged a markup from 4-10k from different FL dealers (Toyota of Orlando, Toyota of Clermont, and Toyota of North Miami) Definitely stay away from North Miami, they are thieves and extremely rude.

    Also another dealer with msrp was Toyota of Jacksonville.
     
    peaceloveandtattoos likes this.
  18. Nov 30, 2021 at 9:40 AM
    #408
    peaceloveandtattoos

    peaceloveandtattoos New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Member:
    #9350
    Messages:
    203
    Gender:
    Female
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    ‘22 Army Green ORP
    Trd pro skid plate, roof rack, wheels, tires and lift, predator tubes
    I can now confirm that Autonation Toyota in Tempe is charging a $15k ‘market adjustment’ on the trd pros. That’s almost $80k for a 4Runner and that’s ridiculous. My guy is currently “seeing what he can do for me” but Jeep also just offered me $44k for my 2019 4Runner….. we’ll see what happens….
     
  19. Nov 30, 2021 at 11:11 AM
    #409
    Green Ghost

    Green Ghost New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2021
    Member:
    #24174
    Messages:
    84
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2022 Lime Rush TRD Pro
    RSG Sliders, PPF & Tint
    Time to look at the list of MSRP dealerships and put your business with someone who doesn't take you for granted. My locals wanted $12.5k and didn't even offer my choice in color - taking my business to Tennessee and once I have my car back in Colorado, those dealerships will not see any of my business. I figure flying my wife and I out to TN, adding gas, food, etc. on the nice road trip, that I'll save 11-12K ;)
     
  20. Nov 30, 2021 at 11:22 AM
    #410
    peaceloveandtattoos

    peaceloveandtattoos New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Member:
    #9350
    Messages:
    203
    Gender:
    Female
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    ‘22 Army Green ORP
    Trd pro skid plate, roof rack, wheels, tires and lift, predator tubes
    The list is not updated for Arizona. I contacted one of the ones on there (out of 2) and they’re charging $10k plus add ons. I haven’t contacted the other one but I might. This saga has been so ongoing that I don’t even feel super gung ho about staying with Toyota. The frustration will pass I’m sure. I’m just feeling very over it all today lol #venting
     
  21. Nov 30, 2021 at 11:43 AM
    #411
    Green Ghost

    Green Ghost New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2021
    Member:
    #24174
    Messages:
    84
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2022 Lime Rush TRD Pro
    RSG Sliders, PPF & Tint
    I was lucky, my son-in-law found my allocation posted in a group back at end of Oct. The only hitch being it was out of state (1100 miles). Put deposit down and trying to exercise my patience for the next couple weeks (I hope) with projected delivery 9-14 Dec;)
     
  22. Nov 30, 2021 at 11:48 AM
    #412
    peaceloveandtattoos

    peaceloveandtattoos New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Member:
    #9350
    Messages:
    203
    Gender:
    Female
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    ‘22 Army Green ORP
    Trd pro skid plate, roof rack, wheels, tires and lift, predator tubes
    Awesome. I hope it all goes smoothly for you!
     
  23. Nov 30, 2021 at 11:50 AM
    #413
    Yota71

    Yota71 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2021
    Member:
    #24361
    Messages:
    5
    Gender:
    Male
    Just FYI, a TRD Pro in Lime Rush arrived at Long Beach port yesterday. MSRP is $54,770 and if you're local (within 25 miles), a previous customer or work in Ontario, the vehicle is available at MSRP. Vehicle should arrive at the dealership within 2 weeks
     
  24. Nov 30, 2021 at 11:52 AM
    #414
    peaceloveandtattoos

    peaceloveandtattoos New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Member:
    #9350
    Messages:
    203
    Gender:
    Female
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    ‘22 Army Green ORP
    Trd pro skid plate, roof rack, wheels, tires and lift, predator tubes
    I wish lol I’m in Arizona.
     
  25. Nov 30, 2021 at 12:32 PM
    #415
    T4Rrunning

    T4Rrunning [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2021
    Member:
    #19826
    Messages:
    441
    Gender:
    Male
    California
    Wait if I remember correctly they had a lunar rock for you then moved you to a lime rush? Now they won’t honor the price they said?


    I am willing to bet they sold the lunar rock from under you and blamed it on toyota.
     
  26. Nov 30, 2021 at 12:38 PM
    #416
    peaceloveandtattoos

    peaceloveandtattoos New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Member:
    #9350
    Messages:
    203
    Gender:
    Female
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    ‘22 Army Green ORP
    Trd pro skid plate, roof rack, wheels, tires and lift, predator tubes
    You nailed it. Although they never gave me a solid price on the lime rush they just told me today about the markup. I would not be surprised if they did that. I told my Toyota guy about Jeeps offer to buy my ‘19 runner and he said they would probably get close to that when they reevaluate the trade lol I’m making him work. So if his offer isn’t good enough, the Runner gets traded in elsewhere. It’s a shame, really. This dealership had my loyalty. This is their last chance!
     
  27. Nov 30, 2021 at 12:42 PM
    #417
    T4Rrunning

    T4Rrunning [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2021
    Member:
    #19826
    Messages:
    441
    Gender:
    Male
    California

    Wow! What dealership is this? We can put them on the ultimate shame list. How unprofessional and greedy of them. I hope it works out for you.
     
  28. Nov 30, 2021 at 12:48 PM
    #418
    peaceloveandtattoos

    peaceloveandtattoos New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Member:
    #9350
    Messages:
    203
    Gender:
    Female
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    ‘22 Army Green ORP
    Trd pro skid plate, roof rack, wheels, tires and lift, predator tubes
    Autonation Toyota in Tempe, Arizona. Also, camelback Toyota is not msrp either (but they are on the msrp list)
     
    T4Rrunning[OP] likes this.
  29. Nov 30, 2021 at 12:48 PM
    #419
    peaceloveandtattoos

    peaceloveandtattoos New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2019
    Member:
    #9350
    Messages:
    203
    Gender:
    Female
    Arizona
    Vehicle:
    ‘22 Army Green ORP
    Trd pro skid plate, roof rack, wheels, tires and lift, predator tubes
    And thank you. It will all work out one way or another hahaha!
     
  30. Nov 30, 2021 at 12:57 PM
    #420
    T4Rrunning

    T4Rrunning [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2021
    Member:
    #19826
    Messages:
    441
    Gender:
    Male
    California

    Updated. Thanks for the feedback
     

Products Discussed in

To Top