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When attempting a repair results in more problems

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by JustLearning714, Feb 3, 2025.

  1. Feb 3, 2025 at 10:36 PM
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    JustLearning714

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    So I completed my rear brake job this weekend and as I was about to pat myself on the back I snapped the last stud on the driver side rear wheel by over tightening. Dumb I know but not major I thought. I’ll just buy a new one and pop it in. Plenty of videos of wheel stud installs on YouTube. WRONG. The Emergency Brake assembly on that side increases the complexity of this dramatically. As I was rotating the hub to see if I there was any way to possibly put the new stud in without disassembling the e-brake, a spring and clip both fell out of the bottom. After trying a little bit longer and by now it being super dark with poor lighting, I finally gave up and I’m resigned to taking it in for a mechanic to do it. This leads me though to the reason for my post, after putting everything back together and driving a way a hear a clicking/rattling sound coming from that wheel at any speed. Anyone know how the missing spring and clip would cause this sound to occur? I’m curious
     
  2. Feb 4, 2025 at 6:31 AM
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    Uhhh, you're missing parts in that brake assembly, and you're surprised it's making odd noises? That spring is most likely the tensioner for the shoes on the inside of the drum for the parking brake. I wouldn't drive with that shit missing. You're asking for trouble, IMO.[​IMG]This isn't exactly what's going on, but I think you get the picture. If loose parts jam in there, you risk damage to the wheel hub, bearings, and brake drum. Not to mention the hazard you just created by driving down the road with others. Glad I don't live near you. For God's sake, have it towed to the shop.
     
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    For the wheel stud install grind down one side of the seat. You should be able to sneak it behind the end of the axle that way. I've been doing it this way for years and years.
     
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    It's got to be disassembled to repair the parking brake anyway. So, might as well do it right. How are you advising to get the old, broken stud out?
     
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    A deadblow hammer. Hit hard until it pops out. It's already broken so length and clearance won't be an issue. Unless the mechanic is pulling an axle, they're going to be doing it the same way I suggested.
     
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    Sorry I can’t visualize that. What do you mean by grinding down seat?
     
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    Here's an exploded view of what you're dealing with. It may not be exactly what's on your 4R, but it's close.
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  8. Feb 4, 2025 at 8:16 AM
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    I think one of you guys should make a youtube video on it? There’s plenty for front wheel stud replacement but none on the drivers side rear wheel that deals with having to maneuver around the emergency brake assembly.
     
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    Here's some various wheel studs. You'd have to grind down the non-threaded "base" to get it to go behind the axle flange, as @crashdb has suggested.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Haha. I don't make a habit of breaking wheel studs. In fact, never in my 40+ years of wrenching on my vehicles have I broken one. Torque wrenches are your friend, and ALWAYS start lug nuts by hand. Never try to force one on.
     
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    For future reference, should you turn the rear wheel hub by hand? That’s the only thing I did before that spring and clip fell out. Just trying to understand what would cause them to fall out so I don’t do it again.
     
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    It shouldn't matter. Shit shouldn't be randomly falling out. There was a problem, and maybe you didn't even realize it. Now you do and it can be properly repaired. Again, don't make it worse by driving around with it in this condition.
     
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    You probably pushed on the drum break pads while sliding the rotor back into position. This can snag and twist them (as I recall). Pulling rotor off or pushing back on is the only way I can think where you could have messed up with that spring and clip. That said from your description not really sure what spring and clip you speak of.
     
  14. Feb 7, 2025 at 1:19 AM
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    Yes,I met so many solutions like that above.
     

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