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Tire Rotation - Easiest Method for DIY?

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by legend1011, Jun 10, 2024.

  1. Jun 11, 2024 at 12:32 PM
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    I have an older Dewalt 20 volt max from before Wilfuckyee was at the top of their game. It hasn't died so I haven't found the need to replace it all with new Wilfuckyee.
     
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    I did my first rotation with the OEM screw jack. It was torture. Even one floor lift makes it seem like no work at all.
     
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    2 floor jacks would be nice. But, you still need to move it from place to place. Or, use jack stands.

    I just lift the front from the skid, and put it on jack stands, then lift the back At the diff. Then all 4 are off the ground.



    Dewalt is good stuff, too. I didn't care much for Milwaukee until the Fuel line came out (2015/2016-ish).
     
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    I lift both rear tires at the same time from the diff and the front one at a time from the control arm. Much quicker than setting jack stands.
     
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    I doubt that.

    I only have to lift the front once. Not sure how long it's taking people to set down a jack stand and slide it up to the frame. But, I assume it's not any longer than the time it takes to lower the jack, drag it to the other side, and lift it.

    I'd bet the difference is negligible, if anything. And, it's safer to not be lifting and lowering the front while the rear is sitting on a jack.
     
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    What? It takes about 20 seconds to lift the vehicle with a floor jack. Swap the tire, drop the jack and done. With a jack stand you need to jack up the car place the stands under, lower it and shift them around a bit and remove the jack. Then when you’re finished jack it up again to remove the stands. I think I’ll keep doing it my way. :D
     
  7. Jun 11, 2024 at 1:27 PM
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    Seems like you really struggle with jack stands. :boink:

    All you have to do is slide it under the frame and lift it up, then drop the vehicle on them.

    Also, aren't you draining your oil while you rotate the tires? Much easier if the vehicle isn't moving around.

    I'm sure either way is good. I just like to lift the whole thing, rotate the tires, change the oil, and drop it.
     
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    I’ve used jack stands my whole life. I bought a second floor jack last year. Game changer. Like I said.
    I don’t change the oil at the same time. I don’t jack the car up for oil changes either.
     
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    Rear axle- jack stands.
    Front, one at a time w/floor jack and have one of the rears ready to put on immediately after a front comes off.
    Edit:
    My thinking is I want any corner held by just the floor jack to be without a wheel the absolute minimum amount of time. I trust jack stands more than a jack.
     
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    Why not, though? Unless you're doing 10K intervals, it just makes sense to knock both out at the same time. The only time I don't is when I'm switching to a different set of tires between changes.

    Either way, it takes all of 3 minutes to get the whole thing lifted and on jack stands. I spend more time tightening the lug nuts than I do screwing with the jack and jack stands.
     
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    Why do you care so much about how I do maintenance?
     
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    I don't. I'm just giving you a hard time.







    And, because my way is better. :bananadance:


    Just kidding.

    I think everybody just gets used to their own routine.
     
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    Meanwhile, I’m thinking mine is the best way, as it must be because it’s what I decided. Right?
     
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    Well, yeah!

    Seriously, though, there's always more than one way to do things. I think the most important thing is just developing a routine that works for you and sticking to it.

    I don't like the idea of the front going up and down and moving around while the back is balancing on the jack, but that's just me.

    I also like to change my oil and rotate the tires at the same time. Usually by the time I'm done rotating the tires the oil is completely drained. So, I change the filter, put the plug in, and lower it down. Then, I top off the oil and torque everything. I know it's kind of weird to make two things into one routine, but it seems to work well for me.
     
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    On the front where do you put the floor Jack if you have a TRD skid ?
     
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    My issue is that my socket while a "non marring lug nut" type isn't long enough and my torque wrench doesnt clear the tires when trying to torque down the lugs.

    Is it ok to use an extension? I figured it would screw up the torque value.
     
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    @Spare Parts has a good idear starting with putting the spare on the first rear

    I have a 6ton jack floor jack and 3ton jack stands.
    I like rearward cross.
    I like to just send it on jacking one side of the frame rail, swap front and rear while on two jack stands. Repeat on other side.
    Then jack up the pumpkin and swap the rear, which we’re just in the front.

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    I just read some good banter above LOL
    I knew I wanted to Watch Thread as soon as I saw the title! (good info here to help one think outside the box)

    *edit: I also use the front centre jack position and my kits engine skid is reinforced making contact at this jack point for safe lifting. The point is off centre for balance, so I throw piece of wood across the span which also helps with scratches

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    Yes, you can use an extension. From what I've read, it will not affect your torque value.
     
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    My way is the quickest. Screw your stands and jacks.

    I have a quickjack.

    Thanks


    I don't really have a quickjack.
     
  27. Jun 11, 2024 at 8:37 PM
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    Too bad it doesn't clear. The shape and depth of the TRD wheels must be the difference.
     
  28. Jun 11, 2024 at 9:29 PM
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    Bought brand new 2016 After May 2021: -Approx 3" lift/level: Bilstein 5100's, OME 2884 590lb 3" front lift springs, SPC UCA's, ICON 158506 2" lift rear coils, diff drop -Mickey Thompson Baja ATZ LT285/70R17 Load E -Mickey Thompson Sidebiter ll 17x9, 0 offset, 5 backspace -Pro Comp black spline lugs ^installed by 4WheelParts^ -New brakes and rotors by brake shop -4-piece ARB skid kit -Smittybilt 2" nerf steps -MBRP black exhaust tip, chopped OEM -Drivers side OEM FJ oh shit handle -All blacked out emblems -Blacked out roof rails -4x WeatherTech window rain guards -OEM custom rear mud flap deletes -KICK BACK MUD FLAPS 12" WIDE - BLACK TOP AND BLACK WEIGHT -FRAM EXTRA GUARD CA10835 engine air filter -1797 LED tricolor fog bulbs Yellow 3000K White 6000K Blue 15000K 28W 4000LM -Armour paint lower rear bumper -Front bumper high stage high clearance cut -Fenders cut straight across, pink reservoir sprayed black -4Runner Lifestyle sequential fog fangs -4Runner Lifestyle smoked taillight decals -Pedal Commander -Rear passenger cargo mounted 120v truck tire pump -4x Spidertrax 1.25" black aluminum wheel spacers -Yota Twins Paracord Hatch Strap sand camo -Teton Workshop hard anodized matte black aluminum shift knob -Ditch flood lights 4 LED 20w 1400lm w/ OEM hood mounts on OEM style dash switch -Backup flood lights under bumper 6 LED 18w 1500lm on OEM style dash switch -Body Mount Chop; cut, weld, paint -Fender mount chop, re-weld, paint -Fender Liner cut behind wheel (I cut liner in front of wheel clean off at top of viper cut) -Wheel well firewall hammering, painting ^done by Arc One Industries^ -valance cap trim -Agency6 Black Shackle Block 2" US Certified 6061 T6 CNC machined aluminum -DRT fab universal hitch skid -ACDelco inner tie rods, outer tie rods, bellows -Full Dr. KDSS switch kit -March 31 Behind grille 13-1/4" 32 LED light bar + wide-angle, eagle-eye lens 6000lm on OEM style dash switch -RAA Powder coated steel roof rack cargo basket, 1" side rails, 64" x 39" x 6", 250lb limit -roof gas can, water can, shovel -PEAKTOW PTT0063 Hitch Mount Cargo Carrier 51-1/2 x 17-1/2 x 4 inches 500 lbs. Capacity (trips only) -July/2023: purchased first needed SPC balljoint replacement kit - newly released, upgraded non-zerk sealed joints 25002 -July 15/2023: The Original Universal EZ Flares, 1". All four corners -Dec. 2023: removed bumper cover and crash bar, drilled frame, installed Apex Overland KDSS Recovery Points -Jan. 2024: SPC balljoint replacement kit - upgraded non-zerk sealed joint design 25002 -Feb. 3/ 2024: 4x KC Wire Hiders, for roof rack lighting Feb. 13/2024: New ditch lights, on new Rago Fabrication Extension brackets. 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Replacing 3inch EVERGEAR clear lens ditch light pods w/ yellow lamix-x In progress: 4th, 5th, and 6th set of off road lights Electrical components and wiring purchased, not started -roof rack scene lighting - EVERGEAR ea. 1,350 lumens, 30w, 3-¾" round floods. Custom, side mounted w/ galvanized flat bar And -roof rack upper ditch lights - 3inch Quad Row Amber Pods from LED-Club. 32W 3200Lm 16-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to front corners And -roof rack reverse amber pods / secondary hazard lights. 20W 2000Lm 2-LED Spot Beam. Bar clamp mounted to rear side And -roof rack F1 smoked chase light w/ lighting effects. Custom bolted to rear side -POR15 rust proofing line-up, 3-step process PAUSED until 70⁰ weather Bought, in the garage queue: -BlueFire 6-Circuit Fuse Block with LED Indicator & Protection Cover -Blue Sea Systems 100A Circuit Breaker w/ reset lever -Rust prevention •New can POR15, 2x Black Fluid Film, long spray nozzle attachments, 2x PB Surface Shield, 1x Chainwax •partially used POR15 Degreaser, Metal Prep Wanted - PerryParts or Wheelers bump stops, self fabricated limb risers (seasonal, removable), 1" body lift, powder coated center winch bumper w/ large bar (got no tss), rear steel bumper w/ tire carrier for an LT285 Kumho on steely, sliders, bolt on cat shields
    With an extension it clears the tire and it fits my lugs and wheels, however my lug nuts are funky

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  29. Jun 12, 2024 at 4:07 AM
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    laxman09

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    I just wasnt keen on having to use an extension, but if its ok then no issues for me.

    I have factory black lugs on order, so will be switching these all out soon hopefully.
     
  30. Jun 12, 2024 at 5:01 AM
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    Cautionary statement on using impact tools to loosen. You miss the opportunity to learn something about the threaded fastener connection. Is it tight, loose, cross-threaded, etc.?
     
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