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Skids and transmission temps

Discussion in '5th Gen 4Runners (2010-2024)' started by swangful, Nov 11, 2022.

  1. Nov 11, 2022 at 7:01 PM
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    swangful

    swangful [OP] New Member

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    Has anyone had issues with engine or transmission tempts with skids? I know some have airflow whereas many don't. Curious if its even an issue to think of as I've only seen it brought up maybe once?
     
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    A question I’ve thought of myself. But most skidplates cover less frontal area than the factory tins do, so airflow changes for skidplates by themselves is probably not a huge deal on most designs. Some have very good coverage though, with little airventing, so I’d wonder on those.


    There was a guy on here that had a full bumper that was pretty sealed tight, and he had skidplates, and he ended up having problems with trans temps. So it’s possible…but that may have been mostly due to the bumper covering up the majority of the radiator.
     
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  3. Nov 11, 2022 at 7:33 PM
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    kmeeg

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    Maybe my RCI full skids + 2 small spot lights effect cooling, mine hit 200F transmission temp when outside is 45F ish. Almost stock weight (other than aluminum skids and hrew sliders), stock tires. Not towing as well.
     
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    This is certainly my concern. I was about to actually pull the trigger on some skids until I started thinking about temps.

    I am curious with RCIs design if it’s preventing airflow. Their KDSS version has no holes in the front other than the logo itself.

    right now I’m leaning towards RGS but their rear skid is as solid as can be. Maybe I can drill out some vents…
     
  5. Nov 11, 2022 at 9:44 PM
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    No change with full skids. I'm still adding an AUX cooler and larger pan though.
     
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    My Rival skids have quite a few vent holes. I don’t know if they make a difference. I guess I should check the trans temp sometime.
    F578E465-BEF6-436D-B101-B43EE617AF27.jpg
     
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    Sounds like an answer looking for a problem. I think we would have heard a lot more about it if it really was a issue IMO.
     
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    Factory "under cover" doesn't offer much of opening other than that mash covered little window. Are you planning to drive across country for hours non-stop? You might be overthinking it.
     
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    There are definitely some makers that do a good job with the front, rival being one. It is the rear I would question since it basically puts a solid metal shield around the transmission. Atleast yours has some vents though!

    This was my thought as well, the platform has been out for so long and we're only hearing small anecdotes about it here and there.

    I think most manufactures do a good job with the front skid. Some have no ventilation, but many don't have sufficient ventilation IMO. Even if its just two mesh covered windows, theyre huge in comparison to a cutout logo. Like RCI skid for KDSS for example... (non-kdss version has 4 additional vents, which is fantastic)

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    Honestly, its really the transmission that id be concerned about. The transmission doesnt have a factory skid. Its completely open, but once you add a skid...it becomes very enclosed. So if the front isnt getting adequate airflow, you know for sure the transmission is just going to be baking.

    Funny enough, driving cross country non-stop would give me less concern since airflow is constant. Its when youre idling, crawling slowly, or towing where theres less airflow/more load that I would be concerned of temperature rises.
     
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    It's also interesting that the RCI website shows their KDSS front skid on a non-KDSS 4R...
     
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    lol yeah, not sure why. i actually called them to confirm too
     
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    My Non KDSS RCI for comparison
    upload_2022-11-10_13-4-37.jpg
     
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    I've wondered about ventilation on the skids. Both the TRD skid plate and the regular skid plate have vent holes in very specific places. If you look at them from the front you can see they are the in same location on both. They could have put holes anywhere, but there seems to be a reason why the engineers chose those locations. Then @kmeeg posted a pic of the limited with it's duct leading to one of those holes, which reinforced the idea that the designers wanted airflow there. Maybe not a big deal, but it makes me want to stick with one of the Toyota versions...
    upload_2022-11-12_16-38-57.jpg
     
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    I remember trying to trace out where the air goes from the stock vents. Seem to remember the air is directed to the bottom of the front diff., not sure where else.
     
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    time for auxiliary transmission cooler with electric fan and 180F switch
     
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    Good find! There definitely seems to be reasoning there. I'm currently leaning towards RSGs plates because of it. An abundance of airflow here. Maybe atleast start with the front first then maybe drill/vent out the rear skid

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    Fast forward to 9:45 to see a description of where the engine oil cooler is. I imagine that this is probably the reason for at least one of the vent holes in the skid plate.

    Edit: I realize that it's a water-cooled oil cooler, but those typically come with some sort of ventilation as well, no?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wDeLFAAJCyk
     
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